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Markuss85

2020-03-10 09:10:48
  • #1


Unfortunately, I can only confirm that for Schwabenhaus. They were one of two providers who did not respond at all anymore. We also had a quite promising initial conversation in Fellbach (without going into deep details yet) and then contacted Schwabenhaus again two weeks later with our specific plans/requirements. No reaction whatsoever. Even after asking twice, we were completely ignored, not even a standard rejection.

Therefore, they were immediately dropped, even though we actually liked the concept and the construction method.
 

erazorlll

2020-03-10 10:42:50
  • #2


I am really sorry for you. Building should be one of the most wonderful experiences in life and not the worst.



Unfortunately, that is a common scheme. Take a look at the many Al*ka*f listings on ImmoScout; they do the same. The provider scours the internet for plot listings and then posts their own ad including a house. At that time, they do not own the plot, but will mediate it to you if you bite. In most cases, the plot is already gone, and you are then promised another plot through their plot service. But for that, you need a preliminary contract and then they’ve got you. The ads always say at the bottom that if the plot is already assigned, they will surely find another one.

I find the claim about contacts in the town hall borderline. What do they want to do? Municipal plots cannot be easily handed out under the table anymore. There are point systems and application procedures that the provider cannot influence. The only possibility would be to know a plot owner who wants to sell their land—but how often does that happen?

We have an acquaintance who works in real estate and spoke to him at the time to see if he could help us with plots. He told us that the situation is currently very difficult in the Greater Stuttgart area and that he could not give us any advantage either.



I would never go to a notary appointment without a financing confirmation. Surely someone will finance the plot for you, since it is usually the smaller amount, but what if not? For example, if you have a poor credit rating (just as an example) and no one wants to finance you? Then you have a plot and obligations and cannot pay. Also, interest rates change daily; if he only comes with financing in a month, who knows what it will look like then? And whether he might not present you with a bad offer from which he receives high commissions.



Our contact person was not from Heilbronn. So it seems more or less systematic.



I don’t know the prices for your house, but I also have to blame the banks a bit. They valued our plot at half the purchase price. I asked him where in the Stuttgart area you could get such a plot for that price, then he should tell me and I would buy it immediately. The answer was only the local land value guideline, etc., but you can unfortunately forget that nowadays, and the banks are still somewhat behind on this.



Back then, I read several negative reports about this approach online. Unfortunately, I don’t remember where, but with some googling you might find them and get in contact with the people.

I definitely wish you good luck going forward and hope you get out of that mess. Do you already have a new provider for your house?

PS: There will be another update on Hauser, U-Haus, and AWS at the end of the week.
 

ms-t-89

2020-03-10 13:28:36
  • #3
We have a new provider; we received the land from the city. According to the points system, we were even directly assigned our favorite. That was no problem either.

I should have gone straight to the VR Bank around the corner for financing. After filling out the contact form online and describing the situation, the head of the real estate financing department got in touch with me and said one of his employees would contact me within the next 5 minutes. That indeed happened, and the employee was also willing to receive everything by email first and prepare it internally. This sped up the process, and a week later we received approval; the paperwork arrived a few weeks later.

The whole thing was then approved for a solid house from a local provider, which offers a full 70sqm more living space than SCHWABENHAUS for only a slight price difference. Just out of interest, I presented the bank with the dilemma regarding Schwabenhaus and the other prices. They also found it very borderline, and in terms of assessment, it probably wouldn’t have gone through.

As it stands now, the Schwabenhaus headquarters insist on 10% damages; the lawyer is currently negotiating to reduce the damage. What annoys us is that, on the one hand, we were too dumb to see through it, and on the other hand, that the sales department did not act fairly here. The sales team from HN should have simply admitted that they made two or three very critical, misleading statements to us (the lawyer calls it fraudulent misrepresentation) which influenced our actions. But apparently, he isn’t man enough to admit his mistake. This way, he is the innocent one and we are the idiots.

By the way, the new provider is not a general contractor but a planning office; they approach everything completely differently. I was confused about that too, but basically they are very transparent and have already admitted one or two mistakes in the offer and are now taking responsibility for them.
 

tomtom79

2020-03-10 16:00:56
  • #4
We spoke with Schwabenhaus in 2014, even after 4 appointments they were unable to give us a price or create a draft for us as a basis, at every appointment we had they wanted to pressure us into signing. We then canceled, their response was that whatever price we get from the competition they will undercut it by 5%.
 

11ant

2020-03-10 20:05:54
  • #5
... and ultimately ended up with Schwörerhaus, if I remember correctly (?)
 

tomtom79

2020-03-10 20:24:20
  • #6
This is how it is when you compare both directly in the preliminary discussions, you know how it can be different. We were even allowed to go into the factory and do a small preliminary sampling.
 

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