Newly built single-family house with 150 sqm living area, Saarland

Regarding point 1: that’s not true, you can easily place the bed on the other side, then you already have 1 meter of space to the wall on each side.

Aha. And how is the interested reader supposed to know that? There is a window drawn in. If the bed is supposed to go to the other side, why isn’t it drawn there then? Is the bed supposed to be placed under the window? What is the sill height of the window?

The idea that the child should decide where which furniture goes is a great idea. As a parent who is planning the place themselves, however, you still have a certain responsibility to provide the child with as many options as possible.

In fact, with my first post I actually thought I was trying to take some steam out of the topic here. Especially with my note that it’s about your needs. But somehow this obviously is not possible. I don’t know why people are acting so aggressively here.

That you can’t take anything from my "writings" I also don’t understand. Here once again a summary of the points I brought up:
- Stair length possibly too short
- Hallway too narrow
- Living room too narrow
- Pantry too narrow
- Bedroom (as currently drawn!) too little movement space
- Problematic trapped dressing room
- Closet problem child 1
I certainly will not allow myself to be accused of not making constructive suggestions.

P.S.: Regarding the stair dimensions, you really can’t say anything concrete here because your room height and ceiling structure are not known. I know that with our straight staircase with a length of 4.1 m at a room + ceiling height of 2.94 m we are at the lowest comfort limit. Big SORRY for trying with my own experiences to save you from your floor plan’s complete collapse.

Just noticed, Kind1 is only 2.5 m wide....let a professional handle it, this won’t work.

Are you missing some kind of storage room upstairs for stuff you don't need often, but still often enough that you don't want it in the attic? (For example, with us [wechseldecken/bettwäsche/saunahandtücher/schwimmzeug/ausrangierte und zu verkaufendes kinderzeug])

Aha. And how is the interested reader supposed to know that? There is a window drawn in. If the bed is supposed to go to the other side, why isn't it drawn there then? Should the bed go under the window? What is the window sill height?

Having the child decide where which furniture goes is a great idea. As a parent who plans the place themselves, however, you still have a certain responsibility to provide the child with as many options as possible.

With my first post, I actually thought I was trying to take some of the steam out of the topic here. Especially with my note that it’s about your needs. But somehow that obviously isn’t possible. I don’t know why people are so completely aggressive here.

That you can’t take anything away from my "rambling" I also don’t understand. Here once again a summary of the points I made:
- Stair length possibly too short the problem was already taken into account in my previous draft, now even the staircase is 4m long, which should be more than enough.
- Hallway too narrow you mention the passage next to the stairs. Upstairs I don’t see a problem there, since you at least feel like you have more space because of the stairwell void, but it’s still one meter. Downstairs depending on the type of stair also rather less problematic. If I had set the width at 1.2 m, the complaint would have been "waste of space".
- Living room too narrow
- Pantry too narrow
- Bedroom (as currently drawn!) too little moving space solved or as shown now for me no problem. The window can be very narrow (light strip) and thus does not disturb above the bed, there is enough light anyway.
- Issue of a trapped dressing room is no problem for me
- Closet problem child 1 solved, I already wrote this beforehand
I certainly won’t let anyone accuse me of not making constructive suggestions.

P.S.: You can’t really say anything concrete here about the stair dimensions because your room height and ceiling structure aren’t known. I know that with our straight stairs with a length of 4.1 m at a room + ceiling height of 2.94 m we are at the lower limit of comfort. Big SORRY for trying with my own experience to save you from the total collapse of your floor plan.

Just noticed, child 1 is only about 2.5 m wide....get a professional involved, this won’t work.

That’s only half the truth. But of course I will now take the next step and sit down with the architect to see where we can still optimize. I still believe that I have taken many, and partly good, advice to heart and that quite a bit has changed compared to my original draft.

I was also aware that some users here are very harsh, as it is already described in the opening thread. But I also understand that many here are anonymous and on the internet everyone knows better anyway. For example, there will be plenty of people who will tell you that you should definitely make a separate door to the garage. Or the topic with the straight stairs... or a shower in the (guest) WC or or or...

But in the end, I am here to get some tips and that’s why I shared it with you. For most of the things I presented, I of course had a reason. Unfortunately, some posts are simply inappropriate and have absolutely no added value, which I find a shame. If I am active in a forum on a topic that interests me or is possibly even related to my hobby/profession, then you can also communicate that in a different way and help someone, but a comment without added value can be saved.

So have a nice Sunday.

I find the living/cooking/dining area too small. We have 44 sqm for three people and it should not be smaller. A lot of space is lost due to the straight staircase. Our house has 150 sqm on 2.5 floors. Currently, we only use two floors and the attic as a storage room (the technology is also installed there). So we only use 133 sqm and the rooms upstairs are not small. Children's room 18 sqm, office 14 sqm, bedroom with dressing room 20 sqm and 10 sqm bathroom. The spacious layout was created by a half-turned staircase. What I want to say is that with the area you have planned, much more could be gotten out through clever room layout and staircase design. Additionally, when planning for children, you should include a bathtub; toddlers hate showers. The 350,000 could be too little given the currently rapidly rising construction prices due to material shortages.

In participation, you should rather see that people put effort into it here and you do not have to implement any of it. However, every ---EVERY--- hint should be answered (not structurally implemented), and if you write why it does not fit for you in each case, then it is understood (or not) and something constructive develops. But as long as you write: "Why should that be too tight, it will work..." or do not answer some things at all, it gets tedious, and I think that is what some people here also criticize. So far, you simply do NOT address some absolutely fundamental things that would completely change a house; you are already too much in the details, and it comes across to several readers here like pushing Tetris pieces, which never leads to a nice floor plan; which is a shame. Therefore, my tip / my request: Read YOUR thread again from the beginning and answer the individual hints appropriately, then it will work out. From me again: - Why is the house shape, roof shape, etc. fixed beforehand and not only AFTER the largely finished floor plan? - Open space is not large, therefore the stairs and the chimney are definitely a problem!!! - Is a gas fireplace no option? Otherwise, leave out the chimney; you will burn yourself or sweat like crazy. Our chimney is on the outside wall and so that it does not take up space inside, it is an external stainless steel chimney. However, we have plenty of space upwards and no underfloor heating, so the chimney is consciously a real heat source. - Prefab house? General contractor? Solid construction? Floor height? Are you already fixed on something? - Actual dimensions of the sofa and all other furniture? - The ground floor guest bathroom could still give up some space - You apparently hang up on the straight staircase; then make sure it looks nice and spend the necessary money on it. It stands centrally in the living area, so it should also be really nice and can, if necessary, also cost extra. - Door to the garage costs more money and takes up necessary space anyway, but it is apparently your immutable wish. In that area, it can possibly be somewhat dark at the cloakroom, so maybe think about windows/light. Possibly also plan so that an affordable wardrobe fits exactly. - I would prefer 50 or 60 cm of shelf depth in the utility room behind the door, maybe move the door. You complain about inappropriate comments "without added value," I find that inappropriate because you yourself only came across sparsely and hesitantly with info, and criticism is not bad just because you do not like it or maybe cannot yet fully recognize it. If you were looking for pats on the back, then this is the wrong place! Look, now even told you about concrete similarities; you should actually understand that it does not fit when you simply ignore hints and just do not answer them; so don’t complain so much about others...