Land planning / floor plan planning

Which program did you use to create your drawing of the property from your first post (Jan 15, 2021)? And is it recommendable?

(I would have liked to send you the message via private message. Unfortunately, that was not possible)

That should be in the thread itself, as it was discussed that a program is bad for beginner sketches.

Ok! Thank you very much! And on which page among the 73 posts? I have already looked myself. Unfortunately found nothing. Therefore, the name of the program would simply be helpful once again. Whether the program is then something for me, I can check myself. Thank you! Best regards

Ok! Thank you very much! And on which page among the 73 posts? I have already looked myself. Unfortunately found nothing. Therefore, just a quick mention of the program's name would be helpful. Whether the program is something for me, I can then check myself. Thanks! Best regards

No idea. It's been a while... I think a CAD program.

Has a car ever been scratched by boxes for you???

Yes, with the delivery man's hand truck :eek: That's why I made sure during the house construction that no one has to squeeze past the car.

I actually quite like the floor plan, although it's hard to judge without the 2 m line whether, for example, the bathroom works like this. The bedroom window could also be tight.

Yes, I have redrawn the 2 meter line, I'll upload it again (I'm currently at the office) - the bedroom window fits, the bathroom probably won't work like that - but it should be solvable given the room size. It's also just a first draft, which will certainly require and undergo quite a bit of optimization.

What I find a bit unfortunate: The original Viebrockhaus has a fairly representative entrance side, but in your case it wouldn't face the street, rather the side. .... Your street view is never shown on the Viebrockhaus website, but it can't look very impressive with windows for technology and backup kitchen. Also, your street view in the new floor plan doesn't look very nice at the moment, I guess. I would change the floor plan so that you enter the house from the street side and make a nice entrance area there. It simply looks better and more inviting, in my opinion. Also, no one has to walk past cars.

That's true. However, the representative side also has many paid upgrades - the one in the "standard price" looks different (no such large window fronts, etc.)... I've also seen such houses from the other side and it's true: the street side would be much less fancy... but I'm building the house for myself and not for the neighbors :) My partner would like to have an entrance on the street side because it would be nicer. I'm not so convinced yet because, given the house width of "only" 9m, that smells like a longer corridor inside - and I actually don't want that. Since I'm financing it alone, I also have more arguments on my side - on the other hand, "Happy Wife - Happy Life" :D We'll come to an agreement... This afternoon I have the first "exploratory appointment" with Viebrockhaus... so far I've heard nothing bad about them - not even from builders in other regions here. Two architects I contacted (asked to call back) didn't respond at all... but there's no rush anyway.

With which program did you create your drawing of the property from your first post (Jan 15, 2021)? And is it recommended?

That's "Sketchup" - in my opinion a brilliant tool... I otherwise use it to plan things for woodworking (desks etc.) or also 3D printing. Professionals also do impressive things with it in the field of architecture. It might not be appreciated by everyone here, but I like working with it because it gives me a good feeling - but I always try to keep in mind that as a layperson it can't be more than a first "idea" that certainly doesn't fit to the centimeter... I ordered graph paper etc. and have it here - but don't get along with it that well. However, I will give it another chance because I understand the advantages mentioned above.

So, first conversation with VBH... was pleasant, almost 2 hours, some things I already knew, some new things... of course, costs were also discussed there. At least I found it very positive that they didn’t even ask about the budget or equity. I had been with Massa Haus before, and the second question there was how much equity I had... I don’t like this "backwards planning." I prefer to know what "my wishes" cost – I can always downgrade later.

The man yesterday roughly calculated the following:

House according to price list (here an example house): 360k
Earthworks: 20-25k (he had the general report of the building area available)
Basement including ventilation, underfloor heating and raising to 2.33: 120k
Connections: 12k
Sample selection: 15k
Electrical sample selection: 15k
Authorities: 1.5k
Kitchen: 25k
Painting work: 10k
Floor "upgrades": 10k
Electricity & water costs: 3k
Surveying: I forgot to note ;)
Garage: 40k (this might be cheaper elsewhere?)
Garden landscaping: 30k
Moving: 3k
Miscellaneous: 10k
Total: 680k

Do you have any comments on this? This roughly corresponds to my previous idea... if you then also plan a 10% buffer, do you think you are well on track? As I said: I just want to roughly know what I’m getting into and not plan "completely wildly"... if the buffer eventually needs to be a bit bigger, I would increase the equity accordingly instead of refinancing.