Indigenous model - is this still legal?

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Camille1984

2019-05-15 20:19:55
  • #1
Then I guess I’m out of luck. Because unfortunately, there is no big salary difference between the federal states for the government (excluding the East).
 

Isokrates

2019-05-15 20:20:54
  • #2


So please forgive me, but with this way of thinking, we would probably still be in the Stone Age.

I can partly understand the resentment of the people towards "newcomers," because some think they will be left behind as more high earners move in and prices rise because of that.

But one has to think further and see the consequence that companies might leave if they no longer find enough suitable personnel.

This often represents bad news, especially for smaller towns/rural areas.
One of the main sources of income for municipalities is, after all, the trade tax.

Nevertheless, in my opinion, a local resident model can make a lot of sense if it is used in compliance with EU law in such a way that low earners and socially weaker families are financially supported in building their own homes.

By the way, a pure points system with points, for example, for being born in the town, residency, etc., is still, in my opinion, a legal gray area in Germany or is handled that way.
If I am not mistaken, the ECJ classified such models as unlawful years ago.
 

11ant

2019-05-15 20:27:18
  • #3

To evaluate the increase in value, the boom price situation must also continue until the grandchildren become heirs. Or vice versa: those who expect an increase in value should rather gift the desired heirs during their lifetime, later it becomes more expensive


Have you read my posts in the linked thread? - the locals' model only excludes you for the municipal plots. Go for a walk in the desired location, to the fair, the baker, the butcher, across the cemetery; google the shooting club president, the singing club president, and the fire brigade president. Plots are scarce goods, and for those who are no longer strangers, they will be obtained as well. My tips in the mentioned thread are meant very seriously: the undertaker knows about vacant houses earlier than the real estate agent.


In Hintertupfing, there may be slow DSL, but at least there is television. There you see the gentrification by the Swabians in Prenzlberg, and of course you don't wish that for your home village.
 

haydee

2019-05-15 20:44:24
  • #4

Municipalities cannot just arbitrarily develop building areas
- the plots belong to someone
- areas need to be developed
- possibly follow-up costs because, for example, the existing sewer system (in the old town) is not designed to handle the water from the new settlement
- infrastructure must be in place
- kindergartens, schools, etc.
And then the employer is not even located in the municipality
What happens if there is another major staff reduction?

A municipality must make decisions that are good for itself and its citizens.
If a city thinks it has to pat itself on the back because a new professorship, the 20th major bank, etc. arrives, then it must also ensure that there is housing, daycare centers, etc.
 

danixf

2019-05-15 21:00:04
  • #5


Do I have a flaw in my reasoning?

If I look at the interest rates back then, they were around 7-9%. Let’s just take 6%.
If I calculate it now with the 350,000DM and 1% repayment, I come to an installment of over 2,000DM.
Interest alone is 1,750DM! Something is off with your numbers or I am doing something wrong.

And back then, a basement was not additionally waterproofed with 282,394 layers because DIN such and such was in place. Nowadays, a basement quickly costs five times as much as back then. That must not be overlooked either.
I believe no one wants to contradict you here that prices have gone up. But it’s not as extreme as many say. There is a long chain behind it. Starting with the ECB all the way to energy regulations.
 

Bava

2019-05-15 21:30:13
  • #6
I come from a tiny village (fewer than 500 inhabitants, 1 inn, otherwise no shopping facilities at all, only the school bus runs), which is 3 km from a town of 20,000 inhabitants. The only attractive aspect is the beautiful landscape and that it lies in the wider Munich area. For several years now, we have had a new housing development here, initiated by a farmer who gave up his entire farmyard and turned it into this settlement. The building plots were only advertised in the Munich area. No local (except the family of the original owner) now lives in the settlement and we have fancy houses and expensive cars speeding through the narrow village streets. There is no participation in the club. This settlement has made the whole village attractive for wealthy "Zugroaste" and what do we locals do? We convert the attic in the parental home (there are many multi-generational houses here), build in the garden and on former farmyards, or leave reluctantly, which for the club already meant the end. Of course, everyone else has also seen how it works, and if a house or building plot is sold here once, it is only advertised in the Munich area. After all, they want to take the big money, that’s where village solidarity ends. And the highlight: Our dear new citizens now even demand a sidewalk on the way to the bus shelter because their poor princes and princesses are so endangered by fast cars (who do you think is driving them?) and narrow streets (which they did not know about when buying the plot). Now we are supposed to give up land, clear the sidewalk in winter, while they sit in their fancy settlement, naturally without a sidewalk.
I would have been glad if the local model had also applied to private sellers.
 

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