No building land due to new EU native model?

I just want to create an awareness of danger here (among the people who actually work in the car – so not just chit-chat like "I'll be there in 10 minutes"), so don’t feel attacked right away.

Danger or not, or whether you work in the car or not. The time is gone, or are you allowed to deduct the phone time from the 8-hour day? I would be surprised.

Kaho, actually you are right. But this forum collects people with a desire for homeownership. And if I live or have to live in an urban area and not in paradise north of the Elbe, I will hardly get a piece of building land in the city center. I will have to go somehow to the outskirts, whether it is called Ahrensburg or Werder or something else. So I quickly have 30 plus. I had to go to Hamburg last week. From us to Ahrensburg I barely took 60 minutes. From there to Mönkebergstrasse almost the same again. Everything full. That every day? Never. Karsten

now just stick to the topic, I also see the danger in business conversations in the car, but that doesn't really matter.

Ok - so you want to move closer to the family because of childcare. At least that's a somewhat understandable reason.
You just have to make some kind of compromise. For me, that commute wouldn't work - because right now it's not compatible with family if I want children who then can only be seen for a few minutes or not at all during the day. But everyone has to decide that for themselves.
Still, there would be the question of childcare, because even grandma/grandpa sometimes can't take over, and especially in rural structures, kindergartens don't stay open for very long.
All important for a decision...

Apparently, I'm not up to date, I can only remember disputes over routes due to various nature reserves in that area - those seem to be resolved and the highway will be built?

Then you really should save a bit more.

Why, he is right after all. That is the only way to get into the system. There are no others. (Although, usually there are, namely with a severe disability degree. But THEN it probably really gets absurd )

Does he really? Please think about what happens if having children doesn’t work out. It may not occur in the rose-colored world of some here, but for at least two couples in my acquaintance/family circle, it is a real problem. And these affected people are therefore not allowed to have the desire to build or is that additionally made more difficult, or what?

Regardless, life design is a private matter and far too individual to simply dismiss with a "what are you fussing about? Then just have children" (social bonds and/or responsibility: keyword care of parents...). Another equally pointless piece of advice could have been: "Then just earn 5 times as much so you can compete with the new rich." Also not particularly helpful. Sorry if this sounded a bit irritated, but with such strongly simplified "it’s all easy, what are you fussing about" suggestions, I really struggle to stay calm.

I like the intention to promote young families through incentive programs. The question is only how. Local resident models are, in my opinion, well-intentioned—which often is the opposite of well done. I also find it quite legitimate to build beforehand and then start a family. Why should funding only apply when you already have children and not also when planning is a fixed part of the life plan?
The problems with the models have also been mentioned: young families overextend themselves or local political networks undermine the “fair” allocation... and something about the points-based model: how do you promote young families if children over 4 years mean point deductions???

Otherwise just an impression: some here seem to view the whole thing through envy glasses due to decent earnings. But that’s just an impression when you read four pages of posts in one go since yesterday evening...

Something more on the topic of local resident models. Quote: “The allocation of residential building plots takes place in two allocation rounds. Only the following applicants are admitted to the first allocation round by lottery:
– Applicants with current or former residence in the municipality ******** or a workplace in the municipality.
– Applicants must be of legal age.
– A written application is required to participate in the lottery.
– In case of multiple applications by several family members, only one application per applicant will be considered in the lottery if there is an oversupply of applicants."
This is how it looked here in our region (Fürth/Erlangen).

Where exactly is the incentive for families here?

After four years of searching, we have been through pretty much everything. From offers that were then left standing for another week to drive up the price in a bidding process to QM prices in the four-figure range.

In the end, we were lucky because in that development area, which allocated according to the local resident model (see quote), the farmer who sold the land to the municipality distributed 4 plots herself—with a surcharge of about €150/sqm compared to the municipality...

As a person who moved from the Hamburg area to Franconia about 15 years ago, with a wife who is Franconian but not from the said municipality, and a 3,000-inhabitant municipality that is more agriculturally oriented, maybe one of the experts here can explain to me how to get a plot there to start a family?

An observation (for the questioner): there is also a very, very overheated market here in Nuremberg/Fürth/Erlangen when it comes to plots. You hardly find any reasonable offers, yet building is going on as if there were no tomorrow, and several areas in new development zones are still undeveloped... a lot goes under the table via contacts in clubs, volunteer fire departments, etc.... either be more present there (which might be difficult) or identify the owners of the free plots and write to them personally, repeatedly inquire at the municipalities, or post ads on the notice boards of local supermarkets. Especially in rural areas, some plots still belong to older people who have little to do with real estate portals and the like, or b) are quite impressed by a handwritten, friendly letter and you remain in their memory...

Just googled: allegedly it is supposed to be completed by the end of 2019. Presumably, prices will then shoot up even more; and even more people will want to go to Munich by car.