Indigenous model - is this still legal?

2019-05-15 21:50:11

You are so right, it just doesn't work for private individuals.

2019-05-15 22:17:08

Anyone trying to convince someone from the greater Munich area (-> me) that immigration is necessary does not know the consequences.

Overcrowded streets, the aforementioned offspring who need to be wrapped in cotton wool but unfortunately do not get a daycare spot because educators can no longer live in the metropolitan area for the offered wages, either because it is unaffordable or they cannot be found; schools bursting at the seams, but only Gymnasium and without a long commute (but if needed with enrollment fraud to fall into the right school district); no staff in lower-paid areas, shortage of midwives up to being referred to another hospital despite contractions, local transport coming to a halt at every little thing because there is no room to grow... should I look for a few more points that would not exist to this extent without massive immigration? And no one needs to come to me now saying that regions like Munich are an exception. My hometown, about 1 hour away without traffic (rather 2 in the morning rush hour) from here, still demands more for land prices than what is, dear Camille, too much for your oh-so-great location.

2019-05-16 04:31:08

Yes, I am complaining. I can certainly afford something, but for that, I now have to go into debt to the brink of existence here. Even for 130 sqm, I will have to put 500,000 on the table.

I was professionally flexible and left my home village. Isn’t that always expected of us young people??? I went where there were good jobs and where the shortage of skilled workers was and is high.
So I would now like to build something, regardless of size and equipment, that fits within a reasonable budget.
Since I couldn’t stay at home (there’s no work in my field there), unfortunately, I can’t benefit from the local bonus, and that annoys me! I would at least like to have a chance to apply in my preferred municipality. If I then had to wait longer than locals, that would be okay! But never having a chance in a more affordable location is just bitter. As far as I’m concerned, plots near the city don’t have to be cheaper either, but then I would like the opportunity to buy a plot elsewhere.

And just because I ask here about experiences regarding size, basement, etc., doesn’t mean I’m going to build something like that! I am very much a realist. Everyone here has dreams, myself included. What eventually stands on the plot is a completely different matter.

Ultimately, I will be able to build what is financially possible for me with my own work and family help. What and how big that will be in the end, no one knows today. And if I had the money, I would also build 200 sqm and still find the building and land prices too expensive because I believe politics has largely failed in economic and financial policy...

Sorry if I’m being too direct again. Your whining is getting on my nerves a bit. On what grounds do you demand that plots be subsidized? Should the public subsidize your prosperity? So that you can afford the Audi and three vacations a year besides the house. No one is forced to accept these prices. Either keep renting or buy smaller. The thing with the skilled worker is nonsense by now as well. At some point, everyone has reached their price in their job. No matter how much someone claims they are indispensable to their boss. The truth is, everyone is replaceable! We deliberately bought smaller so we can still live. I also commute 3 hours a day to work because money is earned in the metropolis. That’s also a huge price. My colleagues only commute 40 minutes a day but pay multiples. To each their own.

2019-05-16 06:40:43

Down there on the corner is where most of the money in the republic is concentrated. Anyone who goes there for work has to realize that buying property will become significantly harder than elsewhere, despite a good income. Friends of ours moved to Freiberg am Neckar (20 km north of Stuttgart); both have good jobs down there, but it was still only enough for a terraced house, and that was already before the real estate boom. You are not an isolated case.

If the situation really is that the city is too expensive and the countryside doesn’t want you, then I would turn my back on such a region. I know, easier said than done, but I wouldn’t want to feel like the fifth wheel on the wagon my whole life either.

2019-05-16 06:56:38

Down there on the corner is where most of the money in the republic is concentrated. Anyone who goes there for work has to keep in mind that acquiring homeownership will become significantly harder than elsewhere, despite a good income. Friends of ours moved to Freiberg am Neckar (20 km north of Stuttgart), both have good jobs down there, but it was still "only" enough for a terraced house, and that was already before the real estate boom. You are not an isolated case.

If the situation really is such that the city is too expensive and the countryside doesn't want you, then I would simply turn my back on such a region. I know, it's easy to say, but I wouldn't want to feel like the fifth wheel for the rest of my life.

Wow, only a terraced house ... I really feel sorry for them

2019-05-16 08:32:27

You are welcome to think that I’m whining, because I am. In the East, people whine that wages for the same work are not equal and fair; in the South and in the cities, people just whine about the prices. To each their own.

What really annoys me is the local model, because I think there could be fairer options. After all, boundless mobility is expected from us young people these days. That should not be punished now. Why do locals actually have a right to a subsidized plot of land?

Everyone is replaceable in the state, that’s true. But not everyone has their price. However, there are other perks. Unfortunately, I have a rather specific education in my field, so I can only work in very few places. Unfortunately, these are mostly in or near large cities.

In conclusion, it remains for me that the locals find the model good and right and do not want any newcomers so that prices don’t rise for them. Let the stupid city dwellers pay for that — they wanted it that way after all. Maybe I will start to get involved in the municipality of my choice in the future. Maybe something will trickle down to me — someday.

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Indigenous model - is this still legal?

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