Ground floor approx. 100 sqm, upper floor expandable (planned bathroom, 2 children's rooms, 1 storage room)

2018-12-04 10:02:57

Maybe I simply have a misunderstanding: For me, 1m Drempel with 10 cm floor structure is where the beams are currently 1.1m above the current floor. From this point, I measured to the window and at one spot that is 2.17 m.

Sample calculation North: 0.6 m (from KS to Drempel) + 2.13 m (Drempel - window) + 1.2 m (window) + 1.6 m (window - window) + 1.2 m (window) + 2.17 m (window - Drempel) + 0.6 m (Drempel - KS) plus 2 x 0.49 m exterior wall structure equals 10.48 m compared to 10.49 m according to the plan. Either I mismeasured by 1 cm or the house is 1 cm narrower than planned.

Am I completely wrong about the above?

2018-12-04 10:09:09

And has it already been considered that when insulating the attic floor, the counter battens and the panels for cladding might also increase the height again? (to make the confusion perfect

Argh, no ... that will certainly be another 8 cm per side that will be lost. The beams are 20 cm deep, but would get 24 cm insulation. However, there are battens here that add 4 cm more depth to the beam. The carpenter had clarified this with the structural engineer. It could be mitigated by, for example, a 0.90 m knee wall instead of a 1.00 m knee wall. We were recommended 0.8 m knee wall anyway, but we are not convinced of that yet. I always drew with 1.0.

2018-12-04 10:16:12

For two people, I see that as completely sufficient and it's a big improvement compared to the current rental apartment.

Throwing it out there again: why don't you stay in the bedroom downstairs? Then there is better space upstairs for two adequate children's rooms, a usable bathroom, and a practical storage room.
Why is the bedroom completely sufficient now, but suddenly no longer when there are children???
As I said: I would rather consider turning the room behind the living room into a walk-in closet and maybe a small chamber upstairs as a study. Then you can still use the bedroom accordingly!
What is the room supposed to be used for if you then squeeze yourselves upstairs with four people?

2018-12-04 10:26:13

Trial calculation north: 0.6 m (from KS to the knee wall)

And how were we supposed to know the 0.6 m?

2018-12-04 10:28:09

Toddlers usually still sleep with their parents, and that is not possible on the ground floor. After that, my girlfriend would at least initially like to be close to the children's rooms. Later, you can move back downstairs and repurpose the bedroom. Therefore, perhaps indeed forgo the storage room and use the corner of the bedroom for the vacuum cleaner.

2018-12-04 10:31:42

And how are we supposed to know the 0.6m?

I had posted it here. But with the 0.5 m I probably forgot the floor structure, the trial calculation corrected it.

Regarding the knee wall, I had given wrong information out of ignorance. I think you can see here that there is indeed a mini knee wall

I measured this on the section M= 1:100, 10 cm of floor structure are already taken into account. The window position is wrong on the section! You have to go by my measured dimensions there.

I think I can see that on your floor plans the 1m and 2m lines can be a bit further out?!

From the floor plans I would like a mix of both. Maybe swap the shower and toilet in ypg's proposal and then move the wall a bit to the north, cancel the closet in the left children's room and set up a small storage room there? I would find that useful for the vacuum cleaner etc. As compensation, move the partition wall between the children's rooms slightly to the right, so that a cupboard fits on the wall in the left children's room. The desk can be further to the left. The right children's room could, as compensation, get the lower closet space from the bedroom.

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Ground floor approx. 100 sqm, upper floor expandable (planned bathroom, 2 children's rooms, 1 storage room)

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