Ground floor approx. 100 sqm, upper floor expandable (planned bathroom, 2 children's rooms, 1 storage room)

  • Erstellt am 2018-03-28 10:32:41

Nordlys

2018-04-04 23:17:46
  • #1
Yvonne, you surely don’t seriously think that everyone or almost everyone builds it like this here because it is the standard among providers and they are too lazy, stupid, or whatever else to change it, even though they don’t like it. If this solution second door utility room were so unpopular, it would hardly be the standard so often. I wish the OP good luck, a smooth construction process, and "it’ll be fine." Karsten
 

chand1986

2018-04-05 09:24:12
  • #2


Not stupid, but lazy is pretty close in my opinion. Reason:



They do like it. That's what it's about. It has a lot to do with feelings.
"It was always like this before" gives a feeling of consistency that many appreciate. That friends can just drop by like that gives a feeling of an intact community and togetherness, as does the fact that almost everyone does it this way. You don't want to be the outsider: "Hey, you can come into my place like that, but I can’t come into yours?" - suddenly you'd rather have an open door than none at all – it just feels more right in the context of the neighborhood.

The weighting of floor space consumption for a main entrance, which is actually almost only a visitor's sluice, versus a side entrance that is in fact the real entrance, is disproportionate to the rational utility value in small bungalows. So it’s a matter of feeling.

By the way, I know this from "back in the day" (if I’m allowed to say that at my age): Parents of a school friend lived in one of the old miners’ houses, which are typical in the Ruhr area. At the back there was a rabbit hutch, also very typical. At that time it was converted into a utility room with lots of space + sauna and a second shower, connected to the small main house by an annex.
As friends of the family, we were allowed to come in through the back when we played in the area – just like in Schleswig-Holstein then, the access through the utility room area was open.
We only did it that way. We walked about 70m around the entire property into the garden and then inside instead of going through the front. Why? Totally irrational.
But it felt good to belong to the select group that was allowed to do that. Familiar. Better than the front. You can’t explain it with reason.
 

kaho674

2018-04-05 11:39:25
  • #3
*yawn* The discussion about the back door never ends. Meanwhile, I have the feeling that the person who lives with Karsten and does not have such a back door can never become a member of the community. Therefore, please build!
 

ypg

2018-04-05 13:22:55
  • #4


I do find chand’s answer very fitting, nevertheless there are of course those builders who hardly or not at all inform themselves about the possibilities of building a house.
One really has to say: very few are in a forum, even fewer let their floor plan be criticized.
Here too, many say that they follow along and now want to have the design discussed, but often many “mistakes” are actually built in that are somehow discussed or mentioned here every day or even have their own thread. But then you really have to justify the objections (which of course one gladly does ).
More prospective builders visit show houses or villages – the latter hardly exist here except for Viebrockhaus.
Viebrockhaus advertises quality, so there are several of their houses in our new development area, looking relatively similar and all with the same floor plan – whether it’s sensible or not. But the prospective builders don’t question that because Viebrockhaus as a construction company advertises class and quality, so nobody questions whether it makes sense or not. It must be right. (By the way, Viebrockhaus and Heinz von Heiden refrain from these exterior doors in the utility room because the room fulfills its purpose better without an exterior door.)
We personally have a compromise, namely a patio door in the utility room, because we can afford it space-wise. No one has ever thought of knocking there. Nor on the other six patio doors in the house. Maybe my father in summer.
By the way, we hardly use it ourselves, rather the front door.

And honestly: anyone who doesn’t respect privacy (there should also be such a thing among neighbors or friends) and doesn’t like to ring the bell or ask over the garden fence _before_ hopping over, gets fire from me.

While writing, I also notice the age phenomenon: to generalize, healthy couples between 50 and 66 need less private space. I can only explain it that there are fewer cuddles among seniors, the intimate kiss has already been replaced by the short “me-too kiss,” spontaneous flirtations or emotionally loud arguments don’t happen anymore either. The focus shifts to group and club gatherings, so visits… which is much more interesting than boring intimacy. One is apparently properly dressed all day until 10 pm, no comfy clothes or without makeup… someone might come.

This goes well until the age-related illnesses arrive – at the latest then this spontaneous visit from Karsten’s village will be ushered back out the back door again.

We should all meet up for a beer at Karsten’s and philosophize about this on the kitchen sofa – who’s in?
 

pffreestyler

2018-04-05 13:30:46
  • #5
Quick side question after the emotional part has been covered in detail. How do you actually carry your heavy groceries into the house? Do you walk around half the house to use the main entrance door? That would really annoy me. Or did you all build it so that the driveway is right at the main entrance door?
 

chand1986

2018-04-05 13:37:19
  • #6


Rum and Coke. But woe betide if Karsten is without makeup!
 

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