Single-family house - flat roof - forest edge location - 175 sqm

  • Erstellt am 2019-02-16 22:03:54

benediktr

2019-02-17 14:24:23
  • #1
Thank you very much for the great interest in the discussion. For simplicity, I have "knocked out" the floor plans, adjusted the dimensions, and created a small section sketch. Whether this really works in reality has to be assessed by an expert. At least it was solved this way in the neighborhood.



Correct, the utility room could be a bit smaller. However, the wall panel for the straight staircase must remain. I am still trying to make adjustments here. The door under the stairs was already answered.

I measured the 3.30 m again in my current apartment and also see it as sufficient. The children's room situation actually still has optimization potential. I hope the sketch can help better interpret the slope position.



Last year, we built a city villa at my brother’s place. Helpers were father, grandpa, father-in-law, and myself. During the week a few hours, and Friday/Saturday. That is definitely nerve-wracking but I am young and resilient. The help from the aforementioned people is assured to me.

I knew the kitchen and living room situation would lead to disagreements. We really thought about this for a long time as well. I fully agree with your argumentation and know that we are accepting a disadvantage here. Nevertheless, we want it positioned like this. I want to have a view into the valley and to the street from the kitchen. Also, I want the morning sun in the kitchen and the evening sun in the living room. This is simply due to our routines and work situation. In the triangle in the north, there is a field path.



As described before, I see it as feasible because I recently did it myself. Here is an example from the sanitary installation as DIY:

The complete water/sewage installation for bathroom plus WC and kitchen was done in about 120 hours (including final installation). I get the material from wholesale at very good conditions. I am aware that there is no huge saving potential here. Still, it makes a difference whether I pay a plumber 30,000 for it or possibly manage it for 15,000 - 20,000.

I look forward to further suggestions for improvement.



 

benediktr

2019-02-17 17:38:43
  • #2


I also think the bathroom is still too big at the moment. The layout was initially just experimenting. We are open to everything here.

Regarding the stairs: I understand your description. I have designed the stairs for a floor height of 2.95 m and a clear room height of 2.60 m. This results in at least a 16-step staircase with a length of 4.10 m.

I think with this span it will be at least a 20 cm reinforced concrete slab plus 15 cm for tacker plates, underfloor heating and screed. I also think that if you optimize the stairs a bit, you can achieve significant gains in other respects. Thanks for the tip.
 

11ant

2019-02-17 19:15:18
  • #3
Regarding the site profile: I find the drawing only moderately helpful, an entry of elevation points in the aerial image would tell me more.


I will nevertheless list the points of criticism using a concrete example: the privacy wall at the toilet is pointless, as it is itself obscured by the door when you enter; the washbasin, where you only have to walk briefly around the partition to reach a fully functional sink, falls into the same category; but what you immediately see is the person showering. Overall, almost 17 sqm with hardly any sense of "space."
 

benediktr

2019-02-17 19:47:25
  • #4


Tomorrow I will roughly mark the elevation levels on the aerial image. With the drawing, I just wanted to clarify the understanding problem regarding the garage in the basement.

The bathroom was a mess. I am aware of that. I will fiddle with it a bit and share the solutions with you. The 17 sqm are also to be reduced in favor of the child. For me, the 17 sqm are definitely too large as well.
 

Obstlerbaum

2019-02-17 20:25:11
  • #5
Since you are building on a slope, I would try to equip one or two rooms with windows and thus make better use of them. In my eyes, the bathroom is a disaster. A kitchen with terrace doors is not necessary, purely a matter of taste.
 

11ant

2019-02-17 20:34:58
  • #6
I see the floor plans changing again as a whole: I would describe the ground floor as "inefficient": the ratio of few room functions (only living-dining-kitchen, utility room, WC and circulation area) to a lot of space (67 sqm just for living-dining-kitchen, and if the total area were less generous you would see more quickly how much space the straight, single-flight staircase consumes) is costly without balancing out.

About 20 sqm could be removed from the ground floor without missing anything. Then I would position a two-flight staircase roughly where the bathtub and shower are currently located, with the rest of the room layout remaining unchanged.

Attached I have highlighted in color where exactly the difference between the ground floor and the upper floor area lies. About half of this surplus would also benefit the upper floor, i.e. from my point of view it makes the difference between a storage room for a double bed and a proper bedroom.

I would not see a "loss" of articulation of the building mass in terms of the pseudo-Bauhaus effect ("wild" cubism) as something dramatic in this.

 

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