New construction - How to build economically sensibly?

If you build for this amount - that might be possible - then you have no money left for economically or ecologically sensible options.

So you also confirm that it works.

Is Alex85 also a liar now?

People, what do we actually know. He says he lives in SH. That could be Norderstedt or Wedel, then it gets expensive. Or also Süderstapel, then it gets really cheap and they throw the fully developed land after him for 40/sqm. He says he wants to spend around 200 thousand. For the house. Without incidental costs, without land, without connections and garden landscaping, etc. so classically turnkey. Here in SH everyone sells that with a base plate without painting and wallpapering, without fitted kitchen. He doesn’t say he can’t spend more. He just asks: Does it make sense—economically, not ideologically, not ecologically—to pay the extra cost say for KfW 55 or even 40? And he wants to know whether it’s better solid or prefab construction. And he says a simple house would be ok, they are not spoiled. I tried to give an answer to his questions, I think a factual answer. And then he gets a wave of outrage thrown at him, from neverever to "better rent" to "price-wise impossible" to "you have no choice anyway." And our house has to serve as the example "If you want that, you end up where that guy ended up." (Whereas what we afforded is quite normal in our settlement and everyone here builds about that level.) I want to make this clear: I am not saying: whoever blows 500 thousand in Wiesbaden is crazy. That may be the standard and doesn’t change. But please accept: it’s different elsewhere. And yes, I stand by it: The KfW standards are incentives to insulate more, use newer or even more expensive technology, they are linked with subsidies, but these subsidies have been more than eaten up by the price premiums from the construction companies, and then economically in my opinion it brings nothing. I am open to counterexamples. Because I can also say: Ok, I was wrong. That does no harm to my pride. Karsten