IKEA kitchen quality and experiences?

And if I order a "normal" looking kitchen at IKEA or someone else, the price should be comparable.

Not at all, here it already depends on which surface, for example, is chosen.

According to the expert, there are no quality differences

Well, I don't want to make any accusations, but there are plenty of quality differences (see above).

so it can actually only be due to the variety of features or the name.

That certainly contributes, but for me it is a criterion that again is due to the quality of the materials used.

And if everything had to be identical to compare, you actually couldn't compare a single kitchen, could you?

Theoretically yes. But for that you would have to know very, very exactly how you want to compare what. The customer can't do that, because he doesn't know, for example, under what conditions manufacturers obtain which materials from where and with what quality.

In addition, as already mentioned, how the dealer calculates, or has to calculate.

A small example:
You want an offer for a simple cabinet, 80 cm high, 60 cm wide and 40 cm deep. It should be white high-gloss lacquered, have one drawer and two doors. The doors should be lockable. That is your requirement.

So, now you get 3 different prices from 3 offers. Why is that?
One uses ready-made high-gloss lacquered panels and simply edges them, another uses MDF panels, fillers, primers and paints them 2-3 times, yet another uses pre-foiled panels and applies a layer of lacquer on top.
Then one plans the drawer in solid beech, the sides are dovetailed with a fitted bottom, another uses veneered chipboard, the sides are dowelled and just felt the bottom in.
One chooses full extension for the drawer, another partial extension, then underfloor mounting or side mounting, one uses plastic rollers, the other ball bearings.
One uses a 3mm hard-facet panel for the back, another a 6mm white coated panel, one grooves it, the other makes a rebate.
For the lock, one uses a simple lock, another a rod lock with cylinder...

For the customer, it is simply a cabinet, 80x60x40, white high-gloss, has a drawer and doors as required and sees the final price. He wonders why carpenter X is so expensive while carpenter Y is much cheaper.

And now tell me there are no quality differences. Admittedly, not easy for the end customer....

Why do we even compare house prices when we can't even compare kitchens?

MDF boards, filled, primed and painted 2-3 times

Drawer in solid beech, the sides are dovetailed, planned with a routed bottom

white coated board 6mm

But in terms of price, we are far away from an Ikea kitchen; aren't we?

I actually just want to point out that there are indeed differences in quality, both in execution and in the materials used. IKEA delivers kitchens almost like from an assembly line, the customer is limited in terms of the range of kitchen cabinets offered. If you want to realize special wishes here, it is already associated with some tinkering. A variety of kitchen manufacturers have the advantage that they can manufacture individually according to customer wishes, the kitchen carpenter is even more flexible. But that costs money. So anyone who is satisfied with IKEA's offer certainly doesn't do anything wrong.

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Because you had *one* offer - what exactly, brand? Carpenter? - you can't say anything absolute about prices... we had demolition companies for 20K € and ones for 5K €. I think that was said well. The quality of a kitchen is not defined by color and number of doors.

Starting over. I first planned an Ikea kitchen because I thought they weren't that expensive and the quality was okay for my requirements. Above all, I immediately had a fixed price, without having to negotiate VAT and the mother-in-law discount for 2 hours beforehand.

After hints from several sides that a planned kitchen from a kitchen studio wouldn't be more expensive and would be better quality, I visited various providers.

Once a large furniture store, once a kitchen studio chain, and two smaller, privately run companies. The offers were not directly comparable to each other, but in my opinion, that is not possible anyway. The fact is, everyone knew my budget, and all were well above it.

The quality of the kitchens shown to me was good, up to significantly higher quality than Ikea. I was sometimes annoyed when they wanted to sell me expensive glass fronts, even though I had clearly expressed my kitchen preference (matte fronts).

By waiving various features (such as drawer interior lighting, simpler electrical appliances, worktop in EL), I was able to approach the budget, but it was still simply more expensive.

Therefore, I can state for myself that Ikea was the cheapest provider. However, at no time did I write that the higher price of the other providers was not justified.

At our Mömax there is 50% off planned Nobilia and Nolte kitchens next week + free delivery & installation. Is this just another rip-off?