Floor plan - Single-family house planning 2 full floors - city villa

You can make everyday life easier despite having a basement. I agree that a basement is great! But I don’t climb into my car through the trunk every time just because it keeps me fit! In my opinion, you see all of this far too romantically.

When I ask 10 friends/acquaintances about my floor plan, 9 say it’s great! If I ask 10 strangers here in the forum, I get much better input and honest opinions.

Honestly, I don't quite understand why you brought the floor plan up for discussion here. If it's perfect for you, then you don't need to hear any more opinions about it, do you? I can understand feeling personally attacked and annoyed when you're so in love with something and others criticize it, which is exactly why I would never have posted our floor plan here before construction. I've written this before: You and your girlfriend, you are probably special in many ways (or at least currently consider yourselves that), this basement fetish has probably become a matter of principle by now – what exactly were you hoping for? Some flattery? Take a moment to reflect and think about whether you would have accepted ANY advice here (on a topic you weren't already considering yourselves), you don't even have to share the answer.

I agree with . Everything was perfect from the beginning, criticism was basically no longer welcome. When some was raised anyway, the original poster increasingly responded annoyed or dismissed everything. That doesn’t make the discussion really enjoyable.

What have you incorporated now? A door to the kitchen right when you come in? Otherwise, everything stays the same?

I want to point out that especially at the beginning made some nice suggestions, even if they were not liked – great that someone is engaged here again!

By the way, I am also a basement advocate and like going down there because there is so much space for storage, cool foods, a large laundry room, fitness, etc. etc. that I would never want to spare upstairs. Especially not with our land prices. AND I like to walk. Both up and down the stairs as well as from the kitchen through the entire living-dining room to the main terrace. I don't even have a direct path from the front door to the kitchen, but have to curve past the guest WC and my 2 m wide wardrobe closet. But since there is parquet everywhere, I take off my shoes right after the front door anyway. According to the forum, the front door should actually be next to the terrace, because a) the paths from the front door to the kitchen must be short and b) the kitchen belongs next to the terrace :p

Nevertheless, I agree with everyone else that you asked here for floor plan discussion and rejected every suggestion except for the extra kitchen door. That is your good right, but you also have to understand that forum members are sometimes a bit disappointed that all their time and suggestions were in vain.

Not to forget: this is after all a forum where it’s about optimization and troubleshooting. It will be the same with the kitchen: whether here in the forum (however, one does not really like to make any planning proposals for the kitchen), since one would already start with the layout of the kitchen, and that goes back to the overall floor plan), but also in the kitchen forum the room, as it develops and "whether anything can still be done there", is examined. Everything is about optimizing spaces, starting with the property and ending with the bathroom fixtures. Ideally, the small rooms are taken into account right away in the "big" considerations.

By the way, I am also a basement advocate and like going down there because there is so much space for storage, cool food, a large laundry room, fitness, etc. etc. down there, which I would never have wanted to spare upstairs. Especially not with our land prices. AND I like walking. Both up and down the stairs as well as from the kitchen through the entire living-dining room to the main terrace. I don’t even have a direct path from the front door to the kitchen, but have to curve past the guest WC and my 2 m wide wardrobe. But since there is parquet everywhere, I take off my shoes right after the front door anyway. If you went by the forum, the front door would actually have to be next to the terrace because a) the paths from the front door to the kitchen have to be short and b) the kitchen belongs next to the terrace :p

Still, I agree with everyone else that you asked for floor plan discussion here and dismissed every suggestion except the extra kitchen door. That is your right, but you also have to understand that forum members are sometimes a bit disappointed that all the time and suggestions were wasted.

You hit the nail on the head. I dismissed almost all suggestions because they don’t fit us. I thanked for the suggestion and made clear what our priorities are.
But if I then have to explain for the fourth time why we want the sink in front of the kitchen window, why we don’t want a pantry, and why no shower-WC on the ground floor, then it doesn’t make sense to discuss it anymore, right?

That is exactly the point. The super great suggestions and the painstaking work were not accepted. Yes, okay, that is just how it is :D You just have to live with that in an anonymous forum, I think. As I said, I am still grateful for the time invested. But all of this is useless in the fundamental discussion :)

And : What did I hope for? Pretty much exactly what happened on the first few pages. A bit of input to think about certain things more intensively again. Just like it is in pretty much every thread. It also helped!
Only as it is also pretty much the case with every thread: From page 10 onwards, there is only "garbage" in the sense of unnecessary discussions. There was one person here who made a few suggestions and immediately accepted that I disagreed with 3/4 of them. So what? Where’s the problem? They just want to help.

The question is: Is it helpful to discuss the same things page after page when they basically don’t get us any further?
As I have already mentioned for the 100th time: We are satisfied with the first few pages and the input we received from them.

This was also my last response on this topic. And again, also to you , I am thankful. You put in effort and tried to help us. I really appreciate that about this forum! But please stop repeatedly dwelling on it when somebody doesn’t want to integrate the suggestions, instead of simply saying: "I can’t help more, this will probably fit your needs," instead of saying "Poor planning, just because I would do it like this or that, what you are doing is totally wrong" :D

But then we are at the topic "forum" and "anonymity" ... you just have to live with it and is right about that too: I probably shouldn’t have posted the floor plan :D