Floor plan, house layout EFW 150m2, basement + granny flat - feedback desired

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hanghaus2023

2024-12-31 09:46:25
  • #1
You don’t have a slope where the construction is. Then the basement is always just a cost. If it is supposed to be a residential floor, then especially high, as we have already established. Therefore my suggestion is without a basement. If you absolutely want to save the design, then it will be expensive.

The house with 12*12 works. I don’t see any distance violated to the neighbor. The 7.5 m building burden is indeed marked.

Build a nice house without a basement and you will already be under 3000 euros/m2. You can go upwards. A flat roof with a recessed floor is definitely possible there. That’s where the architect is needed. In my opinion, you have limited them far too much in developing a good design.
 

hanghaus2023

2024-12-31 12:30:09
  • #2
I think the idea is very good. In my opinion, it is still very comfortable as it is.



The slightly larger area is good for the garden apartment and the parents' area. The living and children's areas can be a bit smaller.

The offset should be the width of one brick.

Then your appearance will look like that in reality.

I might possibly recess the terrace a bit so that at least 50% is covered.
 

ypg

2024-12-31 12:55:30
  • #3
The best side is relative... but whatever Then just try to recognize and mentally implement the ideas behind both proposals. Katja and I independently had the idea of the granny flat in front. It has advantages for everything, not just for seniors, but basically independent of a granny flat. The look is (almost) always the city villa style with Katja, but the software is a bit deceptive as well – just like with my tool. If something doesn't please, you can try to incorporate the good parts of the floor plan into another building structure. Ultimately, they are only suggestions to steer thoughts in other directions and not to stick to the existing design in any way, which isn't necessary. Everything is initially just a plan and a design.
 

njAiiii

2024-12-31 13:02:56
  • #4
I understand the sketch. I’m just roughly estimating it. I also understand the split-level approach conceptually.

The N is at 87.50, the E approximately at 86.70, S at 86.30 and W at 86.9.
The neighboring building ends at 86.74 and stands completely out. It is also raised with 3 steps.


Yes, fits. It was late yesterday.


Phew, easy said in hindsight. I don’t know who is an architect here. Except for 1-2 exceptions, the design is dismissed as “botched planning.” And our requirements are to blame? Then I do expect the necessary advisory component from the architect.


The granny flat doesn’t need > 50m2. We have people in the immediate vicinity who consciously downsized in old age. Their ground floor flats are all 35-50m2. Anything beyond that is comfort.


Visually OK, but who’s going to pay for that?



I will try to sketch something myself tomorrow. My basic idea is rather to use the NOS flank and integrate the garden behind the garage.

Just a thought. Does anyone of you live with a NW orientation? It’s just as dark until 4 p.m. In winter, the sun sometimes never reaches there. Also, the entire apartment faces the street. The view into the green is also limited. With this arrangement, I see more disadvantages than advantages, even if the floor plan of the granny flat turns out significantly nicer.
 

K a t j a

2024-12-31 14:42:48
  • #5
Yvonne somehow gave me the idea with her view from .










I hope the OP doesn’t immediately complain that he doesn’t like the crippled hip roof or that the windows aren’t nice enough. The main cabin is exactly your 10.90m x 9.40m. Only the space for the technical equipment had to be integrated into the ground floor. Otherwise very similar. If the office should be placed in the same spot again, the house might have to be stretched a bit. But I think that should be possible. I would activate the reserve in the roof, provided the city allows it. I’m not entirely sure anymore about the heights. The illustration shows the standard 45° with a 2m knee wall on the upper floor.

The core of the idea is the arrangement of the granny flat in the east as an extension on a freely selectable height level. There it is really shrunk down to dwarf size and possibly could be built later as well. That costs you some garden space because the building stands more centrally, but you have the important south and west sun in the house and the granny flat also still has southern sun with its own garden access. The whole thing without any excavations or holes you could fall into or where floodwater could collect.
 

ypg

2024-12-31 15:10:17
  • #6

Yes, a house with a granny flat is simply comfort. And if you equip 150 sqm, which is not unreasonable in size, with an additional appealing apartment, then that corresponds to the living comfort.
I don't think you as a landlord benefit from adding a dead-end living space.

What interests me here: have you now inspected all possible houses with granny flats? Or do you just want to believe what you've been told?

My next house would have at least a NW terrace. But that doesn't mean you want it too. And it doesn't mean that we are dissatisfied with our current orientation.
It's all a symbiosis of the possibilities you have.
Also, the discussion about switching kitchen and living room: that is very close to the old design to change it that way. But there are also enough houses whose terraces have a complete north orientation—and this orientation also has its justified place because it clearly has other advantages.

It doesn't have to. You live in an apartment? Do you often just hang out on the sofa and enjoy the sun there?
If you have a garden, you do quite different things in good weather than sitting on the sofa and looking outside.
We have a north-facing bathroom. It is bright enough because it has a window, and in summer the sun rises in the NE and sets in the NW, so when we use it, there is still sunlight through the north window.
I'll link a post of mine from elsewhere


Well, you can plant greenery yourself. That's your own responsibility. The same applies to neighbors; you take care of green border plantings, hedges, and such to avoid disturbing each other at the other's driveway.
What disadvantages do you see? Normally, instead of a granny flat, half of the rooms face the street side. I think you entangle yourself too often with the argumentation.
About the slope, I can say little: sometimes it seems a basement is reasonable, then again not. 1.20 m is no reason for a basement.

I also got a little shock. However, I find the approach with the granny flat location interesting, but personally, I would probably be a bit too stingy with the plot there.
 

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