Floor plan - Single-family house planning 2 full floors - city villa

Take it down a notch, others don't even think half as much as we do.

She is certainly right there. But you don't have to compare yourself to others - and you don't... you reject every suggestion because you don’t need stuff like that...

Sometimes you just have to come to terms with it and stand by your decision.

But that doesn’t have to mean that you are resistant to advice or stubborn.

Here I understood:
House with basement comfort (storage space), as much open space as possible in kitchen and dining area, in return no cloakroom and pantry near the front door, renunciation of further comfort because you don’t need such frills.
Do you generally reject comfortable things? I mean: there are people who devalue everything that is new or that others acquire... if that’s the case, then at least I can understand that attitude.

You always write here about individuality and that you can cope with the floor plan.
In my opinion, you are just making everyday life unnecessarily difficult. That has nothing to do with individuality unless you are masochists ;)
Your entire hallway will be dirty and muddy. You will then spread the dirt throughout the whole house. If you like cleaning, then of course this is a dream house!
If I were to build again, then definitely with a large vestibule with a wardrobe.

You have never been in situations where others have been long ago. This input is worth its weight in gold!
Your thoughts regarding the stroller that you park in the garage, basement, or on the terrace speak volumes...
If you put it in the hallway, you will have dirty walls because the wheels scrape along the wall when you constantly push it from A to B. You can probably guess what happens if you have twins ;)

Your kitchen "island" will be full of all kinds of stuff you need in everyday life and put there. I suspect it will be the messiest place in the whole house. You will probably forget about sitting there romantically.

At least have connections installed for a possible shower later. It will cost you less than 100 euros!

Man, holy crap, people really make a big fuss about things here...

I put my stroller on the terrace, take out the carrycot, and put that in my office? Where's the fucking problem? You can discuss this endlessly, but this is slowly becoming an annoying topic that should have been settled long ago in this thread.

For all I care, the thread can be closed before we endlessly discuss the same things here.
I have about 100 possibilities of where to put the stroller. Nowadays I can fold those things up within seconds. I see it with my brother who folds his stroller with two handles and puts the "interior" in his apartment. Now calm down... There would also be enough space in my hallway to put the thing. What about people who have about 20 steps because the property isn’t flat? They just go around the house and put the thing somewhere in the back and then carry the carrycot inside. You really can make a fuss about everything.

Where we put our things in the house, in the kitchen or elsewhere, you don’t even know that. Whether it will be the messiest place or not? You don’t know us and don’t know how we deal with certain things in everyday life.

If I have triplets, the house is too small. If I’m in a wheelchair tomorrow, I can sell the house immediately. Yes, I can't rule out all eventualities. There is simply not only one golden opinion on certain things here (yes, you insist on that because you only have this one perspective). I am open to any point of view but counter certain opinions since they are not necessary or do not fit for US. That should eventually just be understood :D

She is certainly right about that. But you don’t have to compare yourself to others – you don’t do that either… you reject every suggestion because you don’t need such things…

But that doesn’t have to mean that you have to be resistant to advice or stubborn.

What I understood here:
House with basement comfort (storage space), as much open space as possible in the kitchen and dining area, therefore no wardrobe room and pantry near the front door, no additional comfort because you don’t need such gimmicks.
Do you basically reject comfortable things? I mean: there are people who devalue everything that is new or that others get… if that’s the case, then I can at least understand that attitude.

I am not resistant to advice. I just pick up the suggestions that are relevant to me. Just because you agree doesn’t mean I have to agree too?

If 100 people discuss a shower on the ground floor here, 50 will install one and 50 won’t. Don’t you understand that there are other opinions on this?

Why do I reject comfortable things? Every suggestion regarding the wardrobe is useless for us because then the floor plan no longer appeals to us. Our wardrobe on the living room wall, as well as the space next to the stair railing, is perfectly sufficient for us. What’s the problem? :D

There are simply people, especially here in the forum, who think they know everything better because they believe they are experienced, have built a house before, etc.
Okay, but as I have already mentioned 100 times, just because someone would always install a windbreak if they built again – doesn’t make them “wiser” for everyone.
It may simply fit better for their future circumstances, which don’t have to fit everyone else.

Why can’t people just understand here if someone plans their house in a different direction?

I also don’t write under every thread that a house without a basement is not a house for me. Then you might as well not build a house.
That’s my opinion on it, but probably not yours?

There are reasons why I don’t want a pantry and why I don’t want a separate wardrobe room. Period :D

If you/you all want to help me, gladly – that has already happened – but please don’t keep harping on the same things. It just doesn’t help :D

Like I said, the thread can actually be closed because we have already made our decision and will take into account the information that was useful to us.

why so aggressive?
If you don’t want to hear opinions anyway about why your floor plan is shitty in terms of walking routes, storage, and everyday life, then why are you putting it up for discussion?
You have received almost the same improvement suggestions from almost everyone here. All people who don’t know each other, who are in different life situations, and presumably have different demands.
If you think that you need to look out into the yard while washing dishes and therefore forego a proper coat rack, then you are clearly in the minority with this opinion.
Everything written here is not "nonsense" as you call it, but is called everyday life.
Ask your parents in 10-20 years if they still like going to the basement 5 times a day to get drinks, supplies, vacuum cleaner, or to do laundry there...

My father, for example, does not want to go to the basement every time to return an empty bottle. That’s why he collects them in the kitchen until it’s worth going down there.
You can imagine how great that looks...
He’s 65 years old and has back problems and finds it hard to carry full crates down to the basement. For my mother it’s also too hard in the long run.
But hey, you’re surely the exception, always stay without ailments and enjoy teaching your children to walk unnecessary distances! Fingers crossed! Your children will thank you...

why so aggressive? If you don’t want to hear any opinions anyway, why do you put your floor plan up for discussion with regard to walking routes, storage space, and everyday life being shitty? You have received the same improvement suggestions from almost everyone here. All people who don’t know each other, who are in different life situations and probably have other demands. If you think you have to look out onto the yard when washing dishes and therefore give up a proper wardrobe, then you are clearly in the minority with this opinion. Everything written here is not "nonsense" as you call it, but is called everyday life. Ask your parents in 10-20 years if they still like to go to the basement 5 times a day to get drinks, supplies, vacuum cleaners, or like to do the laundry there...

This has nothing to do with aggressiveness.

Based on your last sentence, I know exactly that I shouldn’t accept your suggestions because we definitely have 100% different ideas of a single-family house.

Yes, I like going to the basement to wonderfully arrange everything beautifully neatly there and going down 5 times a day to get the aforementioned things.

And yes!! I really enjoy doing laundry in the basement. That’s why I also referred to building a basement. Yes, if I were to dry my laundry somewhere on the ground floor, also have my heating and my workshop there, it wouldn’t be a single-family house for me. I like everything neatly sorted and cleanly separated in the basement.

And yes, my parents would never give up a basement in their lives and yes, my mother happily waddles down to the basement 10 times a day because 1. it keeps her fit and 2. everything is stored neatly and tidily.

Today’s home builders are simply different and yes, exactly for this reason we are in the minority and yes, exactly for this reason your mentioned options are simply not for me.

The typical "my double garage is a junk room and not a parking space" and "my attic is 100% used, I have enough storage space there" and "I only dry my laundry outdoors or in the living room" home builders nowadays.

A lot is changing nowadays, you are right about that.

Just because 5 people here give me similar suggestions doesn’t mean that this is the majority? Do you think I showed the floor plan to only 5 people here in the forum? :D

Just because you share an opinion, doesn’t mean I have to share it too?

Don’t you understand that there are other opinions on this?

Laugh... You mean the shower in the second case.
It’s not my opinion, I wrote why it could be good.
That also applies to other aspects and other forum members.
Many here have individually adapted their houses but are aware of one or another advantage—whether they have it or not.
And these suggestions or remarks are presented to you. Your destructive arguments cry out for the “Geschiss,” as you know how to put it.