Floor plan single-family house city villa approx. 240m² without basement

Thank you very much for the considerations and don’t worry, we have them too. Nevertheless, it's about the concrete questions and please not the budget

Ok. Routing the house connection several meters below the foundation slab is nonsense; in an emergency, you would never get back to it. A garage and storage room of almost 70m² is sheer madness. The pantry is too large, considering the few cabinets that fit in that layout, and this applies even more to the cloakroom. 6m² for a 2.5m closet, the rest is just empty space. How many jackets do you have? How many food items do you want to store? For the cloakroom, a niche in the entrance area; for food, cabinets in the kitchen; if a pantry, then optimized. A room you enter and then have a U-shaped shelving in front of you. 3 bathrooms, each with a shower... do you all shower every few hours? Expensive rooms that are used just a few minutes a day.

The utility room on the upper floor, although there is already a 10m² utility room. Sounds great at first glance, but in summer you will dry the laundry outside. So you still have to run up and down.

Then you want a green roof of almost 130m² total. Much more complex structural engineering... even a carport quickly costs twice as much.

Oh, and about your bathrooms... sure, you know each other in the family. But if I open the door and have to pass right by my daughter who is pooping so I can get to the shower... at 5 she still finds it funny... if she sits in the farthest corner, the confrontation isn’t quite as dramatic. What I mean is: I don’t know any bathroom where the toilet is planned directly at the door. With you, it’s like that everywhere.

Well, with the planned fireplace ... and generally with the planned floor plan focusing on the "corner bench" ... how did you imagine that?

That is the big question whether there are still options. For this planning there was no "focus wish," but it has become a topic again now. If there is no well-fitting solution, then it might simply become a free-standing bench or possibly a corner bench at the dining table. That can also look good and be cozy at the same time.

Yes, but only in principle, not behind the comma. For example, whether you are "flexible" or "religiously fixed" (between wood and stone, monolithic or ETICS or the like). By the way, fewer problem cases happen where the layman does not believe to know better ;-)

We are by no means "religiously fixed," although wood is ruled out (bad personal experiences) and I simply have not yet received an objectively reliable recommendation for ETICS. But what specifically would be your recommendation?

Unfortunately. You apparently also react to the criticism that the floor plan is already "rotated through" like a Rubik's cube from bottom to top – always with the maxim that the exterior visualizations from the first to the seventy-something variation look like two peas in a pod. We are now at about 140 posts (counting the previous thread), and I easily see 200 to 220 being reached without a knot being broken and a penny dropped. Architects can awaken enamored builders – sign slaves unfortunately cannot.

So you will continue to take objective steps forever without moving forward, but always subjectively with the feeling of continuous optimization :-(

As already mentioned, there was also a parallel design by an architect. But what are we supposed to do if we don’t like it? Still build because it is probably "better" planned? If we are convinced that the current design is not good, then we will probably go to another architect again. Currently, that is not the case.

Ok. Leading the house entry several meters below the floor slab is nonsense, you will never get to it again in an emergency. The garage and storage room with almost 70m² are pure madness. The pantry is too big, considering the few cabinets that fit with this layout, this applies even more to the wardrobe. 6m² for a 2.5m closet, the rest is empty space. How many jackets do you have? How much food do you want to store? For the wardrobe, a niche in the entrance area, for the food cabinets in the kitchen, if pantry, then optimized. A room you enter and then have a U-shaped shelf in front of you. 3 bathrooms, each with a shower... do you all shower every few hours? Expensive space that you only use for a few minutes a day. The utility room upstairs, although a utility room with 10m² already exists. Sounds great at first glance, but in summer you will dry the laundry outside. So you’ll have to go up and down again anyway. Then you want a green roof with almost 130m² in total. Much more complex statics... even a carport costs quickly twice as much. Oh, and about your bathrooms... sure, you know each other in the family. But if I open the door and have to pass directly by my daughter who is doing a pile there so I can get to the shower... at 5 she still finds that funny... if she’s sitting in the farthest corner, the confrontation is not quite so dramatic. What I mean is: I don’t know any bathroom where the toilet is planned right by the door. With you it’s like that everywhere.

I almost always have to run under the floor slab/basement somewhere. I don’t see a problem with that if it’s done cleanly. Yes, the pantry is large but also partly serves as a household storage room. The wardrobe will surely be full with my girls, I have no fear about that... The utility room upstairs is fixed, for us it simply makes sense not to have laundry in the bathrooms. Of course, 3 bathrooms are a luxury, no question. But also to avoid the situation you pictorially described and to have privacy. If I’m on the pot for a long time I just lock the door, so it doesn’t matter at all whether the toilet is in front or back of the room. And the green roof is not something we want but is required for a flat roof. We have tried plenty of other roof variants but with the hip roof it just doesn’t look very good. Anyway, many thanks for your considerations, but in many areas it’s very subjective.

Just set the plan that you don't like at all. Maybe some ideas can still be picked up.

Just post the plan that you don’t like at all. Maybe some ideas can still be picked up.

I’m afraid that won’t get us any further, but well, see the draft attached. Unfortunately, I don’t have it directly in digital form.
What we don’t like:
- significantly more space but one room less on the upper floor
- a lot of hallway/vestibule space without direct use
- the storage rooms between garage and house, generally the entrance situation
- generally the exterior view with narrow tall windows on one hand and narrow horizontal windows on the other

All in all, we simply prefer the other draft, also because (for us) the space is used better.