Floor plan single-family house ~165m² plus basement

  • Erstellt am 2022-08-30 21:16:47

Gregor_K

2022-10-13 10:48:10
  • #1


I had read "The House Building Roadmap" from you. I never wanted to waive service phase 5, at least not consciously. Thanks for the tip that the architect can be a freelance architect; I will try to check that.

The floor plan was created by a sales representative from a prefabricated house company. Therefore it is not perfect and we have already declined the company for various reasons.
 

11ant

2022-10-13 11:17:52
  • #2
I just wanted to understand how this floor plan came into your minds and why it doesn’t have classic solid house dimensions. Quality-wise, it has acceptable draftsman level, so for a sales person already quite remarkable (some of them were still selling savings plans or aloe vera last year, this one apparently has been dealing with houses for a while). I’m glad you read it – by the way, the last part was published recently. My information offers have moved (to bauen-jetzt). General contractors often have the "small planning authorization" as master bricklayers or carpenters, which is not sufficient for all their construction projects. Having an in-house architect is also not cost-effective for them, so there are often permanent deals with architects on parental leave or in retirement. The service phases beyond the approval stamp typically limit themselves to reinforcement plans in general contractors. The service phases build on each other like floors, so without detailed planning, ultimately the construction management is partly built on sand.
 

Gregor_K

2022-10-13 11:43:12
  • #3


Do you mean the stairwell window you can't reach (so the very top one) or the one at landing height? The view should be okay.

Yvonne has already pointed out the bed issue as well. I have drawn in a bed, nightstands, wardrobe, and dresser. Would that be okay from your point of view or rather not?

I’m thinking as follows: 2m bed, plus 80cm on the left and right sides of the bed, plus dresser with 50cm depth.
 

Christian 65

2022-10-13 14:02:36
  • #4
Both stairwell windows. If the view is correct, all windows have the same top edge. If your clear height is 2.50 and you assume the roller shutter box to be 25 cm, the OK window would be at 2.25 m. On the stair landing, you stand after 8 risers at about 1.48 m. With a parapet height sensibly at 90 cm, you would be at 2.38 m window bottom edge. You can see, that can't fit.

In general, this massive landing staircase takes up a lot of space. What actually happens in the attic? Only storage space, or is it also to be developed? You won't be able to lead this staircase run all the way up with sufficient headroom given the roof pitch. However, if an attic hatch staircase is planned in the upper floor hallway, you could possibly rotate the staircase run and then build over the first part of the bedroom-side starting point on the ground floor, certainly 26 cm, maybe more once the section is developed. This would make the hallway space to the bedroom door on the right wider. If you can build over 2.5 steps, the door can be moved all the way down and behind the door leaf a closet could fit along the full width of the wall. This would also have the advantage that you wouldn't bump into a corner of a closet. But for that, the staircase run would need to be represented in a section and the head height checked. And finally, if anyone wants, the stair landing in the middle could get one step = two risers. Then the staircase run can be shortened.

Everyone as they like.
 

Gregor_K

2022-10-13 14:44:21
  • #5


The salesperson was also the only one who managed, based on my requirements, to draw pretty much the same floor plan that I had already sketched on paper. One general contractor had a finished type floor plan that I liked very much, but we were already over 720k in the base price, which is simply too much for my budget. The other two general contractors couldn’t do it; they are regional GCs specializing in solid construction and are priced significantly below the “salesperson.” Besides, I feel better taken care of by the regional providers.

Thanks for explaining why the GCs don’t have their own architect.
 

11ant

2022-10-13 15:23:18
  • #6
A pull-down staircase was probably forgotten to be drawn in, and the stairwell windows are probably calculated to be almost "floor-to-ceiling" at the landing (see also section in post #2). But nice that you’re thinking along. Proven standard building proposals are worth their weight in gold. There are thousands of ways to "customize" a catalog house so that its similarity to its "twin" three streets away is hardly noticeable. The renunciation of "individuality" can thus be convincingly minimized, but in return, even in a normal single-family house with three thousand eight hundred quarter-to-twelve component connection corners, you gain the chance that your own specimen will not become a guinea pig for the skills of the involved trades. Many builders underestimate that a general contractor usually does not have a constant team. It pays off, at least on the shell construction level, to lay the foundation for a smooth process. A building proposal from another general contractor also brings a certain maturity – then only on the level of avoiding bottlenecks; due to the system, building proposals that one tries to "transplant" in a way "transgenically" from a carpenter to a mason (or vice versa) are the worst suited for this. The best is to take a catalog design from the general contractor 1:1 if no individual planning is to be done, and your plot at least does not require one. If none of those fit (with at most only minor displacements of non-load-bearing interior walls), it is better to take a smaller one and stretch it (in the "wheelbase" = along the ridge axis) than to shrink a larger one.
 

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