Floor plan, building with tree, granny flat, and existing buildings

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-21 20:48:29

K a t j a

2023-10-23 20:02:32
  • #1
Ha, funny. Currently 31.1sqm. But I didn’t know the requirement. Or can the HAR be partially counted towards it? How much would the funding be? In the example 8.1sqm. It depends on what all should go in there.
 

ypg

2023-10-23 21:13:10
  • #2
I checked again and have to correct: at least 25 sqm… phew ;) No, a granny flat must function independently if it is rented out. Otherwise, they are not subsidized or official granny flats that can be officially rented out or taxed. €150,000 subsidized loan per residential unit?
 

BucheOnBoard

2023-10-23 21:44:50
  • #3
In the KfW leaflet, I actually did not find a minimum size, only "Residential units are rooms in residential buildings that are located in a closed context and intended for permanent residential purposes, which allow for running a household (own lockable access, room, supply connections for kitchen/kitchenette and bathroom/WC)."

Currently, only program 297 would be possible; we are out for the 300 because the property already exists (sounds strange but that's just how it is). Since we would build without QNG, it would be "only" €100,000 per residential unit, for 10 years at about 3% less interest per year than is currently typical in the market. We would like to take advantage of this, especially since with double funding we could repay one of the loans by 10% to close it at 0.01%. In short, we would gladly take it.

A technical room of 8.1m² could probably be a bit larger — washing machine, dryer, sink, a somewhat larger electrical cabinet because of the granny flat and photovoltaics, inverter, at least space for a storage battery, ventilation system, space for a vacuum cleaner. Although that could also go into the pantry, but I could definitely fill a cabinet for "bulkier" stuff there. And actually also a drying rack, so you don’t have to throw everything in the dryer or for everything that is not allowed.

The tree expert would prefer if the new house in the front southern area does not extend beyond the old cellar, so that the cellar wall could be left standing and nothing would change for the roots — that would be easiest and best for the tree. The alternative would be a root search trench dug by hand, basically an archaeological excavation with a brush to expose all roots, if possible to redirect or cut cleanly with wound care. That would definitely involve additional costs ;) But as I said, I will ask him (with 10m width and 13.5m depth, he was very nervous; the current design would of course be more relaxed). We have planned a little beech budget, but certainly not enough for weeks of brushing.
 

ypg

2023-10-23 21:56:03
  • #4
No, it doesn’t have to, because there is already basically a definition of a "granny flat". Maybe you should have said that before ;) Regarding technology, I had already thought about something like that: rather big technology, with spatial compromises. What you list already needs roughly 15 sqm, if you also do waste separation. https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/die-liste-die-jeden-bauherren-zu-interessieren-hat.34418/
 

K a t j a

2023-10-23 22:05:33
  • #5
Here is a slightly reduced version. Only a little is saved on the granny flat (half a meter), but we noticeably shorten the top: The "extension" does not get a knee wall:






I do not see a larger technical room here at first glance. At most at the expense of the dad's bathroom, and we didn't want that. With the technical equipment, it is usually the case that you really and honestly have to take everything that needs to go in and then draw it in! Google is your friend for all the measurements of heaters, storage tanks, and electrical cabinets.
 

BucheOnBoard

2023-10-23 23:16:45
  • #6
The two roof surfaces definitely make it a lot less bulky, the bedroom definitely has plenty of space to store things (that perhaps don’t fit in the utility room). I have added appliance dimensions once, almost everything fits inside. Except for a person ;)

We actually wrote "about 15m²" on the architect’s wish list along with the number of appliances. If you simply live with the idea that with a dryer (which I’ve never had in my life) you might only need one drying rack at a time, you could probably manage it by stacking and layering (I have already seen ventilation systems hanging from the ceiling in several videos), but EVERY technician will curse and 10m² would be better. But I’ll sleep on it for now – my head is smoking. I want to thank you again for all the input!

And I mean for the KfW only one residential unit counts according to their funding guidelines, not whether it is a (granny) apartment according to the state building code. However, it must be living space (i.e., regarding windows and ceiling heights, etc.).

But it should not be less than 25m² either.
 

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