Floor plan single-family house with separate apartment as a 3-unit house

  • Erstellt am 2021-07-05 06:50:29

florian93

2021-07-05 20:52:31
  • #1


Shocked would be an exaggeration, I have thick skin :) I do read along diligently from time to time, but I won’t have time today to respond to everything in detail. Honestly, I also didn’t expect so much feedback. That’s why I’ll rather reply calmly tomorrow. Nonetheless, many thanks already to everyone for the feedback!
 

florian93

2021-07-06 08:33:56
  • #2
So, I have read everything through again in peace. I have understood many points of criticism. Many tips are great, some already bordered on the line. Unfortunately, I can’t respond to each one individually. Hopefully, no one takes it the wrong way.

One thing I want to clarify upfront: Neither do we want to shove my parents somewhere into a dark chamber, nor cram them into a very tight space. I would even claim that we have a very good relationship with them. Anything else would be negligent if you plan such a joint project. By joint, I also mean that they have been involved in the entire planning phase up to now, and we have been continuously consulting with them. And all this voluntarily without the recommendation of a therapist. Everything else that was written was speculated with (admittedly a lot of) imagination. With that, I would like to close the part about the granny flat here. Criticism understood.



I do believe I wrote this before: The third unit results from the fact that we are providing kitchen connections in a children’s room upstairs. And we want to provide them anyway, because we want to at least theoretically expect that the upper floor could become its own unit.



First of all, thank you very, very much for your very detailed feedback. They are worth gold for us. A few of your questions:



Yes, that is supposed to be the washing machine. But we would prefer it in the technical room or would like to turn the technical room into a utility room. We really need to look at that again.



The financing and funding topics all run centrally through us. We alone act towards the bank/KfW. The rest, we sort out among ourselves with my parents. But of course, they do get a “slice of the pie” for their living unit.



Not 100% yet. Otherwise, I probably wouldn’t be here :)



Anyway, our idea was to separate the hallway from the front door by a wall with a glass door – kind of as a windbreak. But generally your criticism is true. The upper floor is quite “far away,” especially when sitting in the living room. The bottleneck is also still a thorn in my side. Someone before had the idea to swap the kitchen and living room. I like that idea more and more.



I don’t take it the wrong way, even though I have to admit that I don’t like the “tone.” I like to discuss. I also don’t see the criticism of the draft as criticism of me personally. Although here it is often mixed. But I think everything should be on a factual level. I don’t attack anyone personally by accusing them of something (which I at best only guessed) and expect to be treated the same way. So, ditch the rough tone, we all love each other! :D

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I have certainly left many questions open now. I’ll have another look later to see if I can answer one or the other question directly.
 

haydee

2021-07-06 09:07:51
  • #3
I would plan a normal single-family house for your part without any major "what if" scenarios. The connections for a kitchen on the 2nd floor or a lightweight partition wall to eliminate a children's room can be provided. Maybe the child moves into the grandparents' apartment or you move into the granny flat and the child and grandchild into your part. Perhaps an external staircase + additional balcony for the upstairs apartment will be planned. Between families in a multi-generation house, the living units do not have to be separated as rigidly as among strangers. Nevertheless, one can respect the privacy of others.

Laundry in the bathroom in a new building is a no-go. Especially with 3 children, there will be mountains of laundry, so you would have to search your way to the toilet through dirty laundry.
 

pagoni2020

2021-07-06 09:26:56
  • #4
That was maybe a bit inappropriate, of course it is your project and it is not my place to interfere excessively. Sorry if I overstepped your boundaries!!! It was more intended as a somewhat blunt answer to express my clear lack of understanding. Maybe it's also because today I tend to look back and have lived through such things myself, which in turn does not mean that situations have to unfold the same way or that people feel similarly. As I wrote, I do read again and again here in the forum that the younger generation is too focused on themselves and the "old folks" are somehow just tolerated. Maybe out of carelessness or unintentionally, but it happens! It hasn't happened to me, I am building myself repeatedly, but I experience it partly in my environment, which I then find bad. Just take it as a food for thought from someone who had a similar situation and who briefly and strongly sided with your parents and barked a bit. As I also wrote, I see an obligation on the part of the parents for a clear positioning, because what I fear often happens in the other direction as well. I basically find multi-generational solutions great and would always do it myself that way, but only in a way that each party really lives nicely, so on an equal footing in both directions. Have fun with further planning!
 

haydee

2021-07-06 09:53:25
  • #5
I have to say, if I were to plan a multigenerational house with my parents or parents-in-law today, I would plan a large common room. Looking back, it was like that and still partly is (even though there are 200 meters as the crow flies between them) Eating/celebrating is blurred. Before Corona, I had dinner at my parents' at least twice a week. Simply because the food was on the table. Mother celebrated her birthday with us and my birthday coffee was at my parents'. It just happened. Often, whoever has time or feels like it takes over. My father (severely motor-impaired) is a magnet for children. Whether they are his own grandchildren or neighborhood children. A cave, a Lego masterpiece, or something else is often built around him. The living room often bursts at the seams. I digress. Think carefully about what future life should look like. With 3 or more grandchildren (if siblings are present, how does it look with overnight stays), your parents' house will burst. Presumably, I would plan 2 housing units with their own utility room, their own storage room, a smaller all-purpose room, one housing unit barrier-free, in between a large common room with a table for 10+ as well as sofa, terrace, etc.
 

11ant

2021-07-06 12:17:31
  • #6
Once again: this is not about sick souls that one would have to treat with a pipe wrench and Caramba. Rather, it's about a professional in conversation moderation who teases out the unspoken—not to disinherit each other afterwards, but to gain planning insights from it. doesn't have that—our newcomer from the Greens, , rather feels responsible for that ;-)
 

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