Floor plan, building with tree, granny flat, and existing buildings

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-21 20:48:29

hanghaus2023

2023-02-22 19:40:01
  • #1
6*8m yes, that should be correct. where is north, actually?
 

hanghaus2023

2023-02-22 20:01:09
  • #2
. Sorry, I didn’t finish reading, north is up.

What is the structural condition of the existing building?
 

kbt09

2023-02-22 20:50:48
  • #3

and then plot width 15.8 m at the street.

I would calculate 3 m distance from the north and 3 to possibly even 4 m to the south.

House width therefore max. 8.8 m .. and I would really also go at least 5 m into the plot or basically position the house from the building boundary in the west. It would need to be clarified whether terrace areas have to be within this building boundary. And whether a pure parking space may be located in the area of 5 m from the eastern property boundary. Whereas a wallbox or something similar could then already be located in the building window area.
 

BucheOnBoard

2023-02-23 18:42:56
  • #4
Oh dear, I’ll try to quote all the posts one by one, but first of all, many thanks for the tips:


That is indeed worthy of tipping one’s hat, but there would still be the bathroom and hallway added – that’s still not huge or spacious, but also not 16 sqm. And it’s only about barrier-reduced at first, not fully barrier-free. Where it makes sense to go fully barrier-free right away, we would of course do that, but in case of doubt, there must be more room through fewer pieces of furniture if needed...
For Allkauf Haus, I found many houses with granny flats, but most have an entire floor for it – do you have a more precise tip?
Adding furniture and movement spaces is on the ToDO list; I have to get familiar with Vectorworks again first...


The rough idea was 550k house (rather more), 100k cellar, 100k ancillary building costs, 50k demolition (rather less). The cellar in my opinion wouldn’t need to be at living height, for the attic I find your design in the “barn house” quite successful. It can also be “simple” regarding wiring, but heating/flooring/interior finish is of course still there.


So far, we just haven’t found anyone during our research where we thought at first glance "yes, that’s something" – the Point 138 was really just a rough idea for room layout, otherwise just forget it ;)



I’m happy to keep fighting the leaf war against the rest of the street in autumn. But the 2.5m distance would quite certainly not kill the tree because the house (with partial cellar in that area) already stands there now. Almost everything else around the dripline to the west is sealed by our terrace or the neighbors’ access path, to the south and east there are walls for the 90cm embankment at about 3m distance, only below that can it further root. And that is then under the sidewalk and road on the east side. And it’s not the only tree, we still have a beech in the far west about half the size (which will definitely stay), a 5m whitebeam (stays), a 5m oak, a red Norway maple (difficult because it’s in the front garden, but should also stay). Hedges against wind and moist soil for water... until the 1950s the area was a nursery/tree nursery.


That is probably too wide, but at least upstairs quite fitting – children’s and bedroom a bit smaller, but a small guest office added. But the ground floor worries and concerns me more (not surprisingly).


Bad, I think you can put it like that. Built by grandfather himself after the war, cellar is damp to wet (interestingly not from the beech side), shell is sand-lime brick, sometimes also found rubble bricks (I believe). Ground floor uninsulated (brick slips in front of KS), cellar too. Attic has been partly insulated by my father but he didn’t know what he was doing, at least the dormer of the bathroom is also rotten, the chimney had to be removed due to frost damage already. The roof is the "original" one and therefore pretty worn out. I really don’t see any preservation/renovation...




The side distances were about our maximum as well; we had 8.5m in mind there. We didn’t actually want to start at the west end because then there would be not much garden left at the back (and a front garden by the street, even if very quiet, is less cool than a quiet west garden). It would also be really stressful with the neighbor to the north who would then have no light anymore (but that would probably be so). It would of course leave more space for the tree, but then we couldn’t use the existing cellar hole and would have to dig it up.

I hope I caught everything for now and will keep thinking about it :)
 

kbt09

2023-02-23 18:56:36
  • #5
That far west wouldn't be a problem. It would also depend on the terrace .. if it has to be within the building window .. then including the terrace it would definitely end after 20 m and there would still be over 20 m left.

By the way, you have to calculate about 12 m width with a maximum depth of 8.8 m if you want to reach that area. That's just the house area .. because of walls, etc., you can subtract almost 20% of the floor area.
 

hanghaus2023

2023-02-24 09:15:34
  • #6
I dare to shrink the ground floor by 70 cm in width. ;)
 

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