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The thread is simply awesome. Where is Marius actually? Great guy, stirred up the forum with a few exaggerated statements.

First of all: I understand and the criticism is justified. Why the copying? Because in grade 4 maybe your child, but certainly not all children, can do without practicing writing movements through such "idiot tasks."
Why doesn't the teacher differentiate? Because you have a lawsuit (from parents) on your hands faster than you like if you don’t just nicely give the idiot tasks equally to everyone. Find the mistake...

One problem: If you tell your older child (who is still a little one) that these are idiot tasks, what does he think about the classmates who do them or even worse, really need them as practice?

(By the way, in tutoring I have two 9th graders who still hold the pen in a fist and therefore really can’t write properly. They also hold knife and fork that way. They should have copied for hours back then... you think. Then again: Find the mistake!)

...and that’s exactly why the little one has dancing, singing, and clapping as permanent homework. This is not meant derogatorily, but unfortunately that’s exactly the teacher’s justification in 2nd grade. If the material seems too easy for the little one, we can give him extra tasks. Wonderful....

By the way, I think it’s really great that you try to explain things here from the teacher’s perspective. Quite interesting...

Despite all the justified criticism and care for the children, this still seems to me to be clearly exaggerated. What does the child take away from it? The teacher is useless and Dad will fix it for me; besides, he decides what is good or bad. I see today’s often intrusive interference of parents as just as much a problem as the skewed school system. When I then read that it is partly a daily occurrence and even seems amusing that children "throw" notebooks and books around at home and this is not seen there as a real grievance, I believe that school and teachers cannot really fix what is not lived or conveyed at home. What options do a school or teacher have left when parents of 30 classmates each, in their own different opinions, so blatantly trash the work of teachers or the school's offerings in front of the children? What loss does the child suffer if they actually write something twice? As a non-teacher and also a critic of them, I can tell you that all these parents exclusively report about great, intelligent children; idiots and problem children are always the others. I have experienced this as a father and even more so in my short time as a teacher. Parents also like to show off with their children, which is often embarrassing or burdensome for the kids. Unfortunately, the good Jesper Juul is no longer alive; his books are absolutely worth reading.

You are reading too much into my text. I am only concerned with efficient work and the sensible use of one’s own working time. I demand this from my eldest, as such things are essential to manage future learning burdens (in secondary school) without sitting for hours on homework. There are simply children to whom knowledge comes easily; they don’t have to study much. Others have to learn and must find ways and means to reduce the time effort. It already makes a difference time-wise if you don’t copy the task 40 times that is already in the math book, but only write down the calculation process + result.

You are reading too much into my text. For me, it's only about efficient work and the sensible use of one's own working time. I expect that from my older child because such things are essential to manage the future learning load (in secondary school) without sitting in front of homework for hours. There are simply children who absorb knowledge effortlessly and don't have to study much. Others have to study and must find ways and means to reduce the time spent.

I try not to interpret, but telling the child that the teacher is messing up and belittling him/her because of that is, in my opinion, more harmful to the child. Just tell him/her to ask the teacher themselves why he/she has to do it that way. I would find that appropriate and helpful for the child in dealing with future problems. Assume that your child is only telling you his/her version and probably doesn't mention his/her own mistakes; I didn't do it any differently as a child. Maybe it would be good for your child to do that, but I personally don't find it so good as a parent to interfere in this way or choose this path. The problem will be the teacher's, also because necessary respect is lost in this way. Imagine it the other way around. Your child tells about crafting at home with dad and the teacher slaps his/her thigh and tells the child not to do this nonsense next time because, in his/her opinion, it is a waste of time. What you expect from your older child doesn't mean that school has to do the same. Maybe he finds it more difficult than you think, and many children today lack the clapping, singing, and dancing that you rather dismiss. School cannot reflect every different parental philosophy. I am always cautious when parents think they know what's right for the child. Today, I often look back at myself very critically. For me, it is clear—I experienced it that way and see it in my surroundings. Most parents live too deeply into the lives of their children, know everything about them, project their own (partly unfulfilled) wishes but above all also fears onto the children. Of course, one can/should also criticize a teacher, but the form and order should be observed; children should learn that too because otherwise, later in life, they will not be able to and will fall flat on their faces!

Thank you for the praise. The teachers’ perspective is that they would like to reach each child individually where they are. Logistically impossible. The same tasks for everyone are also nonsense in heterogeneous groups. So the higher, practice-detached level says: Well, then just teach at three levels. In one lesson simultaneously, mind you. Three sounds doable, three we set. Of course! You explain things three times with different depth, while managing a class of 30 with 1/4 behaviorally conspicuous children almost without allowed disciplinary measures. That obviously doesn’t work in reality, no matter the salary and benefits. And so the result often turns out to be crap. What’s the reason now?

When I then read that it sometimes seems to be a daily occurrence and even amusing that children let notebooks and books "fly around" at home and that this is not considered a real problem there g

That was me and it was by no means funny. I found homeschooling extremely stressful for everyone involved. There were tears from the little one, and yes, also the occasional scene like the one mentioned above... where I am absolutely sure she would never have behaved that way in front of the teacher or the other children. Our books never fly around otherwise, nor anything else except paper airplanes.

That was me and it was far from funny, I swear. I found homeschooling extremely stressful for all involved. There were tears from the little one, and yes, also one or the other scene like the one mentioned above... where I am absolutely sure she would never have let herself go like that in front of the teacher or the other children. Books never fly around in our house, nor anything other than paper airplanes.

Oops.......I somehow still had that in my ear, of course without directly meaning you, sorry if there was an inappropriate mixing. Of course, the current pandemic is something our children luckily did not have to experience at that age, so I cannot judge precisely. I more wanted to address the handling described here between parents/teachers/child, which I find inappropriate and rather harmful to the child. Just as it happens here in the forum, it probably also happens often at home at the table or in casual conversation and I consider it not very sensible to weaken an entire professional group in front of the children. How is the teacher supposed to properly maintain their authority and represent me as a contact partner if the students hear at home that the teacher is almost all idiots?