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Of course, nobody can learn anything there. Look at what I wrote: Gesamtschule in a problem district. So actually a combined remedial/main school that is supposed to still graduate an upper level despite surrounding grammar schools.

Quiz question: Why are the classes like this? Why did what worked at the end of the 70s no longer work for some time now?

I wrote during the times when I went to school. That was in the 70s to 80s. And it worked well back then. Maybe the poor PISA results are simply because we overload schools with far too much unnecessary stuff? That there is simply no longer any authority in schools? When I look into some classes and see what’s going on, it makes me sick, no one can learn anything there, no matter what the principle. But anyway,

I was in school in the 60s and 70s and in retrospect recognize that it was a bad system for me. Apart from the fact that we still had quite a few people visibly damaged by the war in front of us, I had no access at all to the topic of school. So I left the Gymnasium early and went into my job while after the then "reform" the worst in my class received an Abitur with a 2.6; then I should have at least managed 2.5 or even better. In my profession and today I am extremely eager to learn, interested, for example, in languages, with which you would have tortured me earlier. Since I often worked with young people later and was even briefly a teacher myself, I recognize today the deficits of the system then and now. Of course I was lazy and did not deserve better at that time but I was 12, 13, 14... and a "good" system would have supported someone – me – so that today I could at least say somewhat smarter things than I do. At a German, internationally highly decorated school abroad I was more than shocked at the way results were really tuned there to surpass given standards (just reaching them would probably be uncool). Schools adorn themselves with tinsel and attributes but behind it is usually very dark. After half a year I was so fed up and we both did not extend despite good pay. With my life and professional experience from other areas I could only perceive this as totally stupid and deceitful and completely unsuitable for the actual education of children. The children had excellent degrees, but could do little, instead being able to recite things by heart, precisely according to the system. Everyone should watch the Austrian documentary "Alphabet" once, to see which direction it could go for us too. As a fan of Scandinavia, I know it can be better, even if it’s certainly not optimal there either.

Thanks for the words. I don’t want to badmouth the teachers. They can’t do anything about the lockdown. It’s just that the whole system is seriously lagging behind with digitalization. And parents are simply not teachers. Our one also closed down. At some point, the air was out. He refused to write the tasks from the math book into the notebook. I copied them, he solved them without mistakes. Immediately came a nasty letter from the teacher. She said she knows our son is an A student. But if I continue to write down the tasks quickly, he will get a 3 for laziness on the conduct grade (so laziness was not written, but little diligence or something like that).

GREAT!!!

I told my older one he doesn’t have to do the "idiot task," that is, copying the math problem again from the book into the notebook. Every time this is required, I copy the book page for him. I’m not for waste, and for me work time counts as waste too.

The solution path is, for me, part of the calculation and should also be written down. But demanding the unnecessary rest in 4th grade is inefficient.

The little one in 2nd grade should do it, since unfortunately he has a class teacher where it’s only clapping, dancing, and singing in class/distance learning. Here I’m really glad that next year from 3rd grade he will have a new teacher.

I told my older one he doesn't have to do the "idiot task," meaning the math problem, copying it from the book into the notebook again. Every time this is required, I copy the page from the book for him. I am against waste, and for me that also includes working time.

The solution method is part of the calculation and should also be written down. But demanding the unnecessary rest in 4th grade is inefficient.

First of all: I understand and the criticism is justified. Why copying? Because in 4th grade, possibly your child, but certainly not all children, can do without practicing writing movements through such "idiot tasks." Why doesn’t the teacher differentiate? Because you get a lawsuit (from parents) on your hands faster than you like if you don’t nicely hand out the idiot tasks to everyone equally. Find the error...

One problem: If you tell your older one (who is still a little kid) that these are idiot tasks, what does he think about the classmates who do them or even worse, really need them as practice?

(By the way, in tutoring I have two 9th graders who still hold the pen in a fist and therefore can't really write. They also hold knife and fork that way. They should have copied endlessly for hours earlier... one thinks. Then again: Find the error!)

The thread is just awesome. Where is Marius actually? Cool guy, stirred up the forum with a few exaggerated statements.

I told my older one he doesn't have to do the "idiot task," meaning copying the math task from the book into the notebook again. Every time this is required, I copy the book page for him. I don't believe in waste, and to me that includes working time.

Despite all the justified criticism and care for the children, this still seems to me to be clearly exaggerated. What does the child take away from this? The teacher is a loser and dad fixes it for me, and besides, he decides what is good or bad. The today's often intrusive interference of parents seems to me to be as much of a problem as the flawed school system. When I then read that it is sometimes commonplace and even amusing that children throw notebooks and books around at home, and that this is not regarded there as an actual problem, I believe that school and teachers can't really fix what is not lived or conveyed at home. What options are left to a school or a teacher if parents of 30 classmates each disparage the work of teachers or the school's offerings differently and according to their own opinions, in front of the children? What loss does the child suffer if they actually write something twice? As a non-teacher and also a critic of teachers, I can tell you that all these parents report only about great, intelligent children; idiots and problem children are always the others. I have experienced this as a father and even more so in the short time as a teacher. Parents also like to brag about their children, which is often embarrassing or burdensome for the kids. Unfortunately, the good Jesper Juul is no longer alive; his books are absolutely worth reading.