Finalization of floor plan bungalow 130m² for 4 persons

Kitchen is the next big construction site

And you really should get started on that quickly, because it can significantly influence the floor plan. I mean, I already had a list, but here it is again - which refrigerator: with or without freezer, if without freezer, where should it go? - Attic? - Microwave (I’d say anyone who needs an attic doesn’t need this device) - Coffee machine? Built-in or one that stands on the countertop? If on the countertop, where? (there should be an outlet there) - Classic oven/stove combo or a waist-high oven and a separate cooktop? - From that follows how many tall cabinets you at least need - and for that I need the space - Hot water tap desired? If yes, which one? (there are some that only need cold water, some with hot water connection) - Dishwasher raised or not (I wouldn’t want to miss it anymore!)? - Kitchen machine? Do you have one? Do you want one? Where should it stand (outlet!) - Plan enough outlets - you need the hand blender almost everywhere and the tablet also needs power if you cook, for example, according to Chefkoch - Plan a base cabinet with a waste system, great thing: open drawer and wipe in the waste. If two kitchen rows, I would plan that on almost every side, doesn’t have to be deep, for organic waste the top drawer is enough - you dispose of that often anyway. - Which floor? Do you want tiles in the kitchen or the same floor as in the living area? - Plan lighting!!! Nothing is more stupid than a lamp connection in the middle of the kitchen. No one needs light there, but rather above the work surfaces - If you have an attic, the cooktop doesn’t have to be as big as in your last draft That’s what comes to mind quickly. Maybe someone else can add. But you really should think about this now and THEN finalize the floor plan.

And NO NO NO NO NEVER put the cooktop in front of a window!!!

You can't say it like that ... a sill height of e.g. 115 cm is quite practical together with a ceiling extractor hood or something similar. Although I would quite like Between the lines on the right then a floor-to-ceiling door, at the top of the plan sink/preparation area and at the bottom of the plan cooktop.

Yes, hello... I’m still reading along
Among other things, I pulled myself out because some parts of your plan didn’t seem at all plausible to me/still don’t, and the arguments for this and that were somewhat suspect. For example, the dance floor in the kitchen, which absolutely had to be there, even without any significant reason.

5.) The closed kitchen
- if you have children you might understand it (ypg maybe too)

I advised in your first threads to have an open-plan kitchen, so that you can have peace in the separated living room. If you have children, you should understand and grow fond of the layout.

Please provide a report of experience. Maybe there are good arguments for my wife ^^

How your wife looks after your children when she’s working in the closed kitchen to have her peace will probably be an art unknown to us.

- the idea behind the parapet height of 40 cm was that you can sit on the window sill or have a surface, compared to a floor-to-ceiling window

Window seating areas have to be planned; otherwise, with a standard build, there’s the surprise that you end up sitting at 12 cm. I didn’t have the impression that you wanted to build monolithically.

If you want to build a bungalow, then among other things it’s because of the direct exit from every room to the outside. I would even equip the bathroom with a terrace door, just as a side note (yes, I know it’s not my house, but I’m not imposing my standard on anyone).

Alternatively: between the two children's rooms in the north at the end of the hallway, then everyone would have to go through the private area but you have to make compromises somewhere
- this would allow a niche in the utility room for the wardrobe

With exactly such ideas, you give the impression of having mental lapses from time to time. This also applies e.g. to the fixed windows.

- as you noted, there is plenty of space there, the idea of the space-saving staircase is good

Under the roof, you apparently do not have any standing space at all, so a staircase would be unnecessary here and now. If you want to build like that (this was also advised to you months ago), then you also have to plan the roof accordingly. The implementation is different for a bungalow and more complex.
I don’t know if you are aware of this and if you have already received figures from a contractor?!

We are pointing this out to you. The fact that everyone builds differently could also be a little hint, but you know better. It’s not an irreversible process – removing all the windows and exchanging them is expensive but doable. So get building.
I’m then with the popcorn crowd and totally cheeky.

See above… everything has already been said, which Climbee now repeated.

Thanks for the extensive feedback. With my wife it’s exactly the opposite, she wants her peace from the children in the kitchen :]

And I thought a mother has her bathtub to relax in

- space-saving staircase (2.60m has to be overcome)

See above: the roof seems too flat, and at this position you end up in the hip roof anyway, or rather not out.

You should keep in mind that we here don’t just “take care” of your house, but have dealt over years with dozens of houses and empathetically consider many life situations. We don’t look one-sidedly but reflect more components than you (with your one house).

Ok, if the roof is that flat, it will be difficult to have well-usable storage space under the roof... But probably one will have to resort to it anyway, because otherwise there simply is no storage space. You just have to stoop to load and unload up there.

A solid builder (Town & Country franchise) offers a dry binder construction for an additional 950 EUR. If the pictures are to be trusted, there should be enough space (H:L:W).

The space-saving staircase could be rotated 180° [in the floor plan] with a 1/4 turn.

Feedback from the solid builder:
that we have the location for the space-saving staircase pretty much in the middle area (ridge area) of the house. The standard roof hatch is about 1.20m long x about 0.60m wide

One more thing about the kitchen. I have always chosen a distance of 120cm between the two kitchen lines and for good reason: that is the distance (about 110 - 130cm) one overcomes with a pivot step. So from one kitchen line to the opposite one, I make exactly this one pivot step – that is ergonomic because it reduces the necessary number of steps during work.

You have planned clearly more than these ergonomically favorable 120cm here:



330 - 2x65 = 200, so about 2m between the two lines. That’s quite a lot more steps...

If the kitchen line on the right side consists only of tall cabinets and one mainly works between the other two lines, it gets better, but overall a kitchen planned like this involves a significantly higher walking distance per cooking session than my two suggestions. You have to like that. I know, in the past people often planned this U-shape and were happy about a lot of space in the kitchen – personally, I wouldn’t necessarily plan my little fitness studio into the kitchen now, but of course, you can do that…

If you want a closed kitchen, two lines with a 120cm aisle in between obviously don’t convey a great spaciousness – that’s why I also find the solution with the half-island towards the living area the best: you have the ergonomically sensible aisle width in the kitchen area but don’t feel locked in.

Here, of course, you have the space for a cradle in the middle of the kitchen that j.bautsch has so missed, but does that really make sense?

Please be sure to read about corners in a kitchen before you decide on expensive corner solutions! etc.