Log cabin with a clipped gable roof by the forest - improve planning?

  • Erstellt am 2018-06-11 19:45:58

haydee

2018-06-20 20:30:33
  • #1
The round bathtub is not necessary either. But your property can handle the glazed bathroom.
 

kaho674

2018-06-20 21:13:48
  • #2

Mmh, I don't know, should I give you a gold star or a headbutt? We're not in kindergarten here. I think it's great that you are dealing with your wishes. The bad luck you had with the architect is probably due to the market situation. But what use would it be to anyone if we sweet-talked you here? You don't build a million-euro house without a decent architect. That would be like you performing heart surgery on your wife yourself instead of the cardiac surgeon.

But if you like it that way, then just build it like that. It's not uninhabitable. It just doesn't win any prizes, which is a shame for the money.

I also think Huf Haus could be the right provider for you. Maybe you'll have better luck there.
 

HausaufGrund

2018-06-20 21:15:24
  • #3
It is interesting to learn which path you have already taken and that makes some things easier to understand.

Criticism always hurts.
My advice: always try to see the factual level behind all responses as much as possible, even if the emotional level on your side or on the side of the writers sometimes makes it difficult to see.
Ignore that, that is really important.
Too much energy is lost and you wear yourself out doing otherwise.

That said, I have to say that you respond factually – I think that’s good.

Is there a fixed, unchangeable "shell," thus are the distances in all four cardinal directions maxed out?
Are there still variables there?
Smaller surely won’t be the problem, right?

The first draft had exterior dimensions on the ground floor of 12.87 by 18 meters.
In the new draft, it is 12 by 20 meters on the ground floor.

If I’m not mistaken, that means 240 times 2 = 480 m2?
Am I miscalculating?
I simply cannot imagine that you haven’t invested at least a seven-figure sum there – without land, outdoor facilities, and additional costs.
You don’t build tiles costing 20 € into a house like that.

Have some prefab house providers give you a price quote for your latest floor plan.
Or a general contractor.

If money matters (which one can already assume … right? …) that would also be essential as a check of the planning.
What’s the use of having found the ideal floor plan afterwards if you can’t implement it financially?
Did you do that with the other floor plans you discarded back then?

Best regards
 

kaho674

2018-06-20 21:29:55
  • #4
What does the property contract say about how much must already be built so that you do not lose the land? For some, it is enough if the [Handwerkertoi] is standing.
 

keychain

2018-06-20 21:58:40
  • #5


Of course, there are financial limits, as with any construction project. We have probably spent around 200,000 euros on the land and the initial development work and what we are still preparing now. In addition to the outdoor facilities, there are also small things like sewage treatment plants, roads, fences, gates... Let's say, there is still quite a bit of work to do. The property is great, but admittedly a bit remote. I admit that I did not expect all things to be so extensive. I am not averse to staying below the magical 7 figures overall, to put it cautiously.

The building application must be changed one way or another. If we already have to do that, we don't need to stay within artificial limits. Previously, the house was calculated at around 480 sqm with a basement, which was not really fully used. Now we have only 2 floors, fewer stairs but the same living space, with daylight everywhere except for the interior heating and electrical connection rooms.
Otherwise, we have the usual 3-meter distances, so theoretically we would have 30 meters width. But I don't want to push it either; it doesn't look that great, and in case of doubt, you can no longer get a digger or something similar past the house. There is no building window, but due to the southern location, we do not want to leave too much space in front; we are just making the garden smaller.

The current design did not fall out of the sky but was created after a rough agreement; price-wise it will fit – we save more by leaving out the basement than we are now spending on a larger outer shell, since the earthworks on our site are not easy. The binding offers will come next week as a basis for detailed planning; then the architect will also have revised the first drafts and made his own proposal. Let's see if I am allowed to post it.

Thanks also for the compliments; I strive to conduct a focused discussion. I am here precisely because I know I have no idea about planning a house and only know a few specific areas. Otherwise, I would surely have noticed earlier that a 1.80 m bed was installed in the first draft. Objective criticism is therefore welcome and I do not consider it inappropriate, on the contrary. Just as I have benefited from archive posts, I hope this post helps others, no matter how ugly my gymnasium is, it can serve as a deterrent example. And when the house is built, no matter which of the past or future designs it is, we will invite all discussion participants to a meal.
 

keychain

2018-06-20 22:01:39
  • #6

Unfortunately, it is a bit more complicated. The plot was in the outer area and was incorporated into the inner area, after which a building preliminary inquiry was positively decided almost 3 years ago. Now the plot is to be separated again due to some reforms – or rather the clarification is to be withdrawn. Therefore, with the preliminary decision, I can submit a building application by early July, which cannot be easily rejected. If I miss the deadline or withdraw the ongoing building application, it will become a recreational plot in the outer area again and will be unbuildable.
 

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