City villa floor plan 180m², basement, 3 children - Your opinions on this?

only our drafts with which we would go into the race,

Let's leave those nice and cozy at home.

how to do it better. Maybe an architect here has a different approach.

You know, an architect costs money. With a general contractor, you also buy the architect’s service. And yes, there are ambitious people, e.g. me, but honestly, I have no desire to spend 2-3 hours on it when I already know it doesn’t work on 10 x 10. And since you currently don’t see at all that the pantry simply consumes money without any benefit, that would be a wasted effort of life.
Maybe will conjure something up?

If everything here were to be properly aligned and made functional, including a 2 x 2 meter pantry where you could also gladly put a crate of beer nearby plus a second fridge, plus a perfect wardrobe, it still wouldn’t be seen as better, because you already pressed the 3D button too often and fell in love with your draft.
This draft, painstakingly created with your program, is your baby, and someone who now comes along with a different draft wants to take your baby away from you, swap it... that usually doesn’t work.

What are we supposed to do with the square meters in the kids’ room? We haven’t understood that yet.

The door of two kids’ rooms hangs on an ugly bump that is good for nothing except “beautifying” the living sqm, calculating nicely. However, here it is wasted. It turns 13 sqm usable into 12 sqm.

We are also not happy with the bathroom, how could it be arranged differently?

By doing many things differently and leaving a room for the bathroom as well.

My wife absolutely wants the pantry to be next to the kitchen, even if it is only 1 meter wide.

Next to the kitchen in your case means: I walk through my whole house once in a circle just to get to the "other end" to my pantry... Does your wife carry the wine, juice, and beer crates?

Since we are always open to criticism, different perspectives, and suggestions, we look forward to your opinions on our floor plan design.

At least the OP is open to other opinions. :rolleyes:

At least the OP is open to other opinions. :rolleyes:

True. And I forgot: I think it's good that you decide to put the study in the basement. Because of the slope, you can install a regular window there, so the room does not have a basement character.

.... Thanks for the tip about the round pipe, do you know roughly how much floor height you lost compared to the flat duct because of that?
Labeling the cables could really be an advantage and I would accept the extra effort...

We have a 25cm floor construction on the ground floor, so plenty of space (we install controlled residential ventilation in the floor; most people put it in a suspended ceiling). Other controlled residential ventilation pipes run past the knee wall, so no space problem there either. With square pipes/ducts, the flow behavior is less favorable than with round pipes, so you need a larger cross-section. I think a maximum of 2cm more build-up height is needed...

For labeling, I have (and need occasionally for work anyway) some Brady label printers. I have vinyl labels up to 10cm wide and max. 15m long :). But for our first provisional labeling on site (directly during installation), we just used labels from a roll and wrote on them with a fine marker. If you write neatly, that can even stay like that. It lasts forever (for that I bought some rolls of this cheaply on eBay "Brady Label THT B427 CLR 2.75" X 1.0862" WHT Y378995 800 labels a Roll" and surely won’t use them all.

Maybe the attached site plan with concrete measurements will help.

Not really much. It is still mainly too small-scale. Nevertheless, the additional information ...

This site plan results from a preliminary building inquiry and therefore the requirement with the areas I (1 full storey) and II (2 full storeys).

... is useful, as the site plan can now be interpreted better: namely in such a way that I now see the building envelope as rather about 14.5 to 15 m deep and at the back 10, but at the front about 13 m wide; and that I and II here are probably not specifications, but merely adopted from a specific preliminary inquiry object.

Let's just leave that at home.

Listen, an architect costs money. With a general contractor (GC) you also purchase the architectural services. And yes, there are ambitious people, for example me, but honestly, I have no desire to invest 2-3 hours when I already know that it won’t work on 10 x 10. And since you currently don’t see at all that the pantry is just a money sink without any benefit, it would be a waste of life’s effort.
Maybe will conjure up something?

If everything here were nicely arranged and made functional, including a 2 x 2 meter pantry, where you could even easily place a crate of beer nearby plus a second fridge, plus a perfect wardrobe, it still wouldn’t be seen as better because you have already pressed the 3D button too often and liked your design.
This design, painstakingly created by you with the software, is your baby, and someone coming along with another design tries to take your baby away from you, swap it... that usually doesn’t work.

The door of two children’s rooms hangs on an ugly bump which is good for nothing except to “beautify” the living sqm, making the numbers look better. It’s wasted here. It turns 13 sqm usable space into 12 sqm.

By doing many things differently and leaving a room free for the bathroom as well.
In your kitchen means: I walk through my whole house once in a circle just to get to the "other end" to my pantry... Does your wife carry the crate of wine, juice, and beer?

Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to see it as our baby, we have no emotional connection and only consider it a pure floor plan suggestion, admittedly drawn by us using a tool but nothing more. I have already written several times that we are only entering the race with it without the claim that no changes are possible anymore.
If in the end something completely different comes out and we still have 3 children’s rooms, one bathroom, and one bedroom on the upper floor, we are okay with that too.
And maybe we’ll even take your tip and go to the architect without our design and just be surprised to see what he designs for our requirements.

At least the OP is open to other opinions. :rolleyes:

We definitely are, otherwise we would still insist on our floor plan and not consider any of your suggestions, which is not the case.

True. And I forgot: I think it’s good that you decide to move the study to the basement. Because of the slope, you can install a normal window there so the room doesn't have a basement feel.

Thanks again for the tip, your argument was convincing and only because of that we switched and planned the office from the attic to the basement and now have to make sure the slight slope is optimally used. So much for the topic that we wouldn’t be open to other opinions ;)

We have 25cm floor buildup on the ground floor, so enough space (we put controlled residential ventilation in the floor, most people put it in a suspended ceiling). Other controlled residential ventilation pipes run past the knee wall, so no space problem there either. With rectangular pipes/channels the flow behavior is less favorable than with round pipes, so you need more cross-section. I believe a maximum of 2cm more buildup height is needed...

For labeling, I have (which I occasionally need professionally anyway) some Brady label printers. I have vinyl labels up to 10cm wide and max 15m long :). But for our first provisional labeling on site (directly during installation) we just used labels from the roll and wrote on them with a thin permanent marker. If you write neatly it can even stay like that. Lasts forever (for this I cheaply bought a few rolls of these on eBay "Brady Label THT B427 CLR 2.75" X 1.0862" WHT Y378995 800 labels a Roll" and certainly won’t need them all.

Are the pipes in your filigree ceiling? If I use round pipes, I would put them in the filigree ceiling and provide the openings right away to avoid later core drilling, chipping, and similar work.
Thanks for the tip about the Brady labels. Are those the self-laminating ones?

Not really fat. Mainly it’s still too compartmentalized. At least the additional info ...

... is useful, so the site plan can now be better interpreted: namely so that I now see the building envelope roughly about 14.5 to 15 m deep and 10 m deep at the back, but about 13 m wide at the front; and that I and II here are probably not regulations but merely taken from a specific preliminary inquiry object.

According to the architect, these are the regulations, building envelope 10x10 for 2 full floors or 10x13 for stepped floors. In the 10x13 only one full floor may be built, but on the upper floor a full floor can again be built on the 10x10.
We were advised either to also extend the basement to 10x13 in order to build 10x13 with a stepped floor or to keep the basement and the building within the 10x10 building envelope.