Log cabin with a clipped gable roof by the forest - improve planning?

Parents who wish to be an octopus also have to climb the stairs.

After two years with a baby and toddler, I am glad that the kitchen is finally by the garden. No crap that the water is missing, toddler, rightfully whining, tucked under the arm and off we go.

The roof construction would not be worth it to me.

Yes, the priorities are somehow still in the baby phase. A roof structure might be important if I am building the Elbphilharmonie and need to make a big impression. But a residential house should first and foremost serve your daily life. Then there will just be a different roof. I recently saw that you can do trial living in model houses. Somehow it feels like that would do you good.

Hello everyone,

after the waves did get a bit higher after all, we took a little break over the weekend. You as (ex-)home builders surely know this too, the topic is not exactly free of emotions

It is not as low-priority as it may seem to you, but I understand your criticism. So, short and sweet: children are not a priority because we don’t even know if we will have any. We don’t want to block our path, but they are an option. The house is primarily for us and we have an idea of living space that we have now realized we previously gave up on due to misunderstood compromise. The living/dining room was no longer what we originally wanted even in the first design published here. We are not building a Semperoper, but our home, which is important to us—just like guest rooms, children’s rooms (or initially offices) are. Since all changes to the building application currently have the same consequence, we have thought from the ground up and chosen a house that appeals to us inside and out, a chalet in the Swiss building style.

I personally don’t share your concern that the one staircase will be a problem with children, but the prospective grandparents do, so we have made sure there is a Plan B: a second kitchen on the ground floor with a room that can be converted into a living room. This has the advantage that the unit can be separated into a separate apartment—for the said grandparents.
In addition, we have placed the second entrance on the garden side and placed toilets/bathrooms on both sides of the hallway, so that at garden parties or with children you don’t always have to go up the stairs. As a special feature, on the first floor there is another level above the children’s rooms and bathrooms that is open to the living room and can be used as a play area.

To make the house bright, the half-timbered construction with the large glazed front facing south fits quite well. All windows and sliding doors are still placeholders, the floor plan was more important to us!

Is there a door missing to the bedrooms?

Unfortunately, I can hardly get anything out of your explanations. You say you’re not building the Semper Opera, but your home is important to you. Yes, how nice. The rest of us just build for fun, or what?

If I understand correctly, there is now only one ground floor with various rooms and an upper floor with 140m² (!) of living/dining area? Somehow reminds me of a train station, but okay.

It’s all so aimless and confused. The stairs don’t match. Now it’s a quarter turn – before there was just a landing and the stairs in the kitchen are no longer a problem because of odors. Or can you suddenly close doors now? Laundry room is again not where it was originally wanted. Doesn’t matter anymore either.

I would just wait and see how it develops. Maybe tomorrow you’ll remember you want a lighthouse or something. The priorities keep changing and some of them are still too absurd for me.

Now you are planning the basement and the upper floor for yourselves as definitive use, and the ground floor for buffer children, grandparents, a second kitchen so that the distance is not too far.

What do you think about a bungalow or the living/dining room open up to the top.
Take a look at the Huf model house in Hannover.
Nice large living/dining room, kitchen downstairs, open up to the roof, small office or children's rooms.
A parent area that is simply wow. With the size of your property, the bathroom windows can probably even be adopted as they are.

Is there a door missing to the bedrooms?

Yes, Magicplan does not allow that - a subsequently drawn wall can neither have a door nor anything else "wall-bound". Doors are on both sides of the stairs.

The stairs don’t fit together. Now it’s a quarter-turn - before there was only a landing and the stairs in the kitchen are no longer an issue regarding odors.

This is also a problem, the program does not transfer the stairs from one floor to the other. We still prefer landings at the two turning points, but we have only checked feasibility mathematically. Unfortunately, I still can’t do CAD.

Kitchen: I was just told that it’s not clear.. The kitchen is upstairs next to the dining table. The name is not in the plan - why? No idea. The kitchen downstairs is based on your input that it can be a problem if you have children who want to play outside and the parents are a floor above. At least this way we have a plan B if it’s needed for some years - if not, we have all connections to separate the apartment. Odors should not descend, the bedrooms are separated by doors.

You say you’re not building a Semperoper, but your home is important to you. Yes, how nice. The rest of us are only building for fun, or what?

I don’t know why you feel so attacked. No matter how harsh your criticism may sometimes be, I try to take it as especially well meant. Of course your home is important to you, but everyone builds with their priorities, and for many that is family – a nice, practical home. We are primarily building for two adults, visitors, and possibly family. The results or priorities being different can also be accepted without attacking. At least I didn’t want that and apologize here if it came across wrongly to you.

Laundry room is again not where it was originally wanted. Also doesn’t matter anymore.

Correct, also because of your input that it makes more sense to have it on the ground floor to be able to hang laundry. The chute has failed, a black column is drawn below, a freezer is shown above where the chute is – accessible from the hallway.

I would just wait and see how it develops. Maybe tomorrow you’ll remember that you want a lighthouse or something. The priorities keep changing and are sometimes still too absurd for me

No, nothing has changed, we have consistently implemented our priorities and tried to incorporate as many of your (certainly justified) objections as seemed possible to us without neglecting our design.