Log cabin with a clipped gable roof by the forest - improve planning?

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keychain

2018-06-18 15:23:57
  • #1
My mistake: There is no longer a basement. We divided the space on the first two floors to gain "real" living space. The ground floor is therefore utility space, which partly takes rooms from the basement and also provides space for guests, bar/pool table, and wellness, optionally also kitchen and living room – plan B.

We usually don’t really like bungalows. They are practical, but at that size either huge or with comparatively little window area. Generally, though, I think the rejection is more emotional than factual.

I just looked it up on the website; it goes in the direction of half-timbered style, but in terms of furnishing, it’s too modern for my taste. We’re driving past Hannover this weekend; I’ll include it in the plan, at least from the parents’ area you don’t see anything on the website. Thanks!
 

haydee

2018-06-18 15:41:21
  • #2
It's not about finding a model house that fits 1:1. It's about finding ideas. Getting a feel for stairs (there are quite a few in the park, they make you feel old), sizes, furnishing ideas, or what you don't like. Different furnishings, different colors, and everything looks completely different.

If you are in the model house park in Hannover, then take a look at the bathroom at Streif Haus. They also have an unusual parents' area. The stairs take some getting used to.

Meisterstück has a similar look to Huf-Haus and is also a bit larger.

Kampa/Wolf Haus (I don’t know exactly which company is in the house) very spacious parents' area. Hanse Haus should also have one, but I'm not quite sure anymore. Opposite of Huf there is also Haake. I think it went somewhat in the direction of a clichéd villa.

If you have time, go into all the houses, even those that may be too small. Open doors, let the rooms take effect, imagine your furniture, don’t just say you don’t like it, but go through the points for yourself about what you don’t like.
 

HausaufGrund

2018-06-18 17:40:56
  • #3
Hi,

I find Haydee's response and recommendation very good and important.

I get the impression that you - from looking at the floor plans you have presented so far - are not yet sufficiently clear about the basic concept.

I do not want to evaluate them further or say that they are bad, no - they are simply very different.

Before you consider further details, you should have a "concept" in place, because the problem will be that you will get 6 opinions from 5 people here. That will unsettle you even more.
Everyone will have their own opinion about the floor plans.
Building is too individual, and if you have the opportunity to plan individually and the budget is not the all-limiting factor, take your time!
And get professionals on board.

For example, you can also build with the goal of addressing as large a potential buyer target group as possible when selling.
Or very individually....

A concept immediately came to my mind with large glazing to the south - with rooms opening outward - connections between inside and outside.
But my preference does not have to be yours.

In your new draft, the huge cellar is now missing, and from minimal windows to the south, you are now almost at the maximum possible glazing.

These are such stark contrasts that I would like to advise you to fundamentally - as also suggested by Haydee - look at houses and rooms and get a feeling for how spaces work.

A 20-meter-long and 6-meter-wide living-dining-kitchen area - it is personally hard for me to imagine that one (better: that I) can feel comfortable in it. But as I said, everyone is different, and for you, it may be the right thing.
But you need to get a feel for these room dimensions - paper does not adequately convey the spatial feeling.

My well-meant advice: have an architect make the designs, preferably several.
Look at houses, do you find one you like? Which architect built it?
Is there anything interesting at the architecture day?
....

Every architect implements a certain "style," that is our experience. If they can plan freely.

When building, you ideally need as much as possible of all 3 things: money, time, experience/knowledge.
Besides good nerves.

Think about which you have a lot of and which you don’t.
What YOU want to build is crucial.

Cheer up, I know exactly what it’s like to be stuck in such a situation.
Be brave, take a deep breath - clear your mind - carry on.
But no hasty decisions if you are not sure.

Best regards
 

kbt09

2018-06-18 19:22:24
  • #4
Hmm, I just wanted to ask if the outer shell of the initial plan is somehow a MUST because of the building permit. And then I suddenly see glass half-timbering instead of a wooden house. Are you sure you can still change the shell/size that easily now?

Kitchen etc. on the upper floor with a 3m deep balcony .. I miss the spaciousness. My balcony in the rental apartment is already 360 cm deep and less than the main exit? And then again a big hot stove very close to the dining table. Why is the work corner in the middle of the 120 sqm room? Home office there? Have you ever done home office in the open space of your apartment? Maybe with kids?

I also find the bedrooms partly so tight that when you put a bed with 2x2m mattress (outer dimensions are usually at least 210x210 cm), the room feels cramped.

How about setting up a room program first. Which rooms with what size. In which rooms should there be an open roof truss, what could be a second purpose of the room, etc.
 

kaho674

2018-06-18 19:45:40
  • #5

Kids or no kids, the terrace by the kitchen is a gain for everyone. As soon as the grill starts up in summer, you now start carrying half the fridge up and down. Why?

Oh, not at all! I actually just wanted to make it clear to you that all of us here are building or have built a very special house.

You should assume that those replying here have already understood that this is going to be a castle. What we are trying to explain to you is that your house can become a palace and still unite all the useful gimmicks that are also very much appreciated in small houses. Usually, you find a good architect for that and don’t take a house you saw in some catalog. Because bending that for you is much more difficult.


Well, I’m not the only one who thinks that the new draft has as much in common with the previous one as a cat has with a stone.
 

ypg

2018-06-18 21:01:35
  • #6
The program seems to have some deficits that have to be explained every time. How about taking graph paper and a pencil and then photographing the drafts? Since I only follow this thread sporadically, two questions: 1. Do you even have a Plan A? (And for Plan B, are you making rooms for children and grandparents?) 2. Have you already submitted the building application? If I were you, I would probably quickly withdraw it and hire an architect. Planning 300sqm with two people is the exact opposite of Plan. That is called arbitrariness.
 

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