How can one circumvent the Energy Saving Ordinance and avoid bureaucratic madness?

  • Erstellt am 2017-07-08 19:26:56

Farilo

2017-07-11 01:01:18
  • #1

Hello Chand,
you are quite right there.



That "confirmation bias" thing is quite something. I know this "phenomenon" and do try to pay attention to it. I also have no problem changing my opinion today if someone explains something objectively and I then, with a lot of luck, understand it.
But even that is a constant struggle. I keep at it.

As far as Mr. Fischer is concerned, I don’t just believe everything he says. But I listen. And the things I think I have understood, I take as food for forming my opinion.
Just like many opinions here from the forum.
When Mr. Fischer then talks about climate change etc. or presents his very "unique" tables, that’s where I stop. (He definitely should work on the layout of some of his presentations).



I don’t want and won’t act as a lawyer for Mr. Fischer here. He should do that himself.
But what you described above is a trait we all show. We also learn from our personal experiences and then share them with others.
I don’t take it literally when he says ALL houses mold. At the same time, I don’t consider it total nonsense. At this moment, I simply have no conclusive opinion on that.
A field study, which will probably never take place, could provide help in this regard. Probably wishful thinking.


I understand what you mean. I see it similarly. There are certain added values you cannot/should not simply calculate in cash.


You have!
Thank you.



Well, that cannot be. Because I did not drive across the republic to almost every house-village despite initially having felt insulation was bad.
Especially with Viebrockhaus, from which you actually only hear good things, I had the stale air in every house. Really in every one!
And that, even though sometimes the door was open longer downstairs. (Or is that exactly the reason and I don’t understand a deeper physical reason for it?).

So, I definitely did not approach the matter with "bias." On the contrary. I wanted to and almost would have. Gritting my teeth.
Until I got lucky and suddenly completely different questions had to be clarified.

I simply have to write many things down in a notebook in the classic way. I can’t remember all these pieces of information/opinions etc. And searching everything in the forum every time is tedious.
Pen and notebook are ready

Regards
 

Farilo

2017-07-11 01:07:09
  • #2

That surprises me a lot now. After all, it is a word that older people definitely also use. When? Well, for example, following your above comment

Regarding "stagnation of my development": ypg, please, a little more class and respect please. Being funny and being a jerk are not the same. Watch out.
Thank you very much.

Regards
 

Joedreck

2017-07-11 06:44:35
  • #3
The walls in the pictures are only red because everything else is deep blue. It only makes sense to switch on the thermal imaging camera at cold outside temperatures. You can see the temperature differences better that way. Otherwise: due to the lack of insulation, the wall is naturally cooled from the outside (at low temperatures). As a result, the temperature on the inside wall is a few degrees colder than the air temperature. This creates a "cold feeling" near the wall or it can also feel drafty. In insulated houses, the wall has approximately the same temperature as the air. Due to the lack of the cold feeling, it seems warmer in direct comparison despite the same air temperature. It therefore feels more comfortable. To compensate for this, temperatures are often set higher in uninsulated old buildings. There is also a certain heating behavior involved, but that would go too far here. You can also notice this with older, large windows. Maybe pay attention to that in winter. Best regards, Joe
 

Steffen80

2017-07-11 08:26:16
  • #4
As a multimillionaire, I certainly wouldn't build a house here or be active in this forum

Did my post come across as "envy"? Hm... I actually don't know envy. Maybe I'm wrong and you are not a troll. A lot of money + a lot of time can of course exist... no question. I don't know anyone... but if you have that luck... then it would really be something to envy

A plot by the lake near Hamburg for 100k... I won't believe that until I've seen it... Sorry.
 

chand1986

2017-07-11 08:49:25
  • #5


The thought error is as follows: The red you see is heat outside. But heat should not be outside, it should be inside. What is outside is missing inside and needs to be reheated. Well-insulated facades appear as blue as possible in the thermal image from the outside because the heat stays inside.

If you look at two people side by side in winter with a thermal camera, one naked, one with a coat, who appears red, who does not, and which of the two is cold? Exactly...
 

dragonfreak

2017-07-11 09:46:05
  • #6

At the latest since the question about the thermal camera, I am also sure he is a troll

No one can seriously deal with the topic and not recognize any logical connections xD

I'm out of this thread
Don't feed the troll
 

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