How can one circumvent the Energy Saving Ordinance and avoid bureaucratic madness?

  • Erstellt am 2017-07-08 19:26:56

Farilo

2017-07-09 22:55:13
  • #1
Since I don't have all the device names/abbreviations on it yet, I call them, somewhat exaggerated, "Enterprise spaceship galaxy technology." Overheard somewhere around here LOL

Well, when I feel like it! When I grill on the terrace, my friends are chatting in the living room and I want to join the discussion from the grill. When I'm simply reading a book and want to hear the geese waddling on the lake. When kids run in and out all day and I don't feel like opening the door every 2 minutes. Doesn't matter whether winter, autumn, summer or spring.

??? I don't understand. If windows and roof are leaky, only air comes in from outside but nothing goes out??? I don't understand your air objection at all. Sorry.



Huh?! I just said that I don't understand and therefore asked you concrete questions. I don't see an answer to the question in your post.

Sorry if I misunderstood something.
 

ypg

2017-07-09 23:02:21
  • #2
I don’t know what enterprise is supposed to mean here either, but yes: you can open windows. This is called ventilation [emoji23] Or leave it open all day in summer. Why not? In winter it becomes uneconomical, so a ventilation system is worthwhile, then you DON’T HAVE to ventilate yourself. Best regards in brief
 

Lumpi_LE

2017-07-09 23:03:22
  • #3
It's a bit like when you ask why an apple doesn't taste like a pear. And when you're told that an apple just tastes like an apple, then you ask why an apple tastes like an apple...

I don't even know what else to say here.
If you open the patio door in summer, moisture comes into the house, which you ventilate out again at night by opening the windows. In a very old house, the windows and roof are not sealed, so the moisture would also go out again if you don't ventilate.
In winter, you don't grill; if you do, the apartment just gets cold, but not damp. Economically, an insulated house is obviously not efficient if you do this every day, because then you don't need insulation either. But you end up with 8,000 euros in heating costs, or happily temperatures of 10 degrees in the house.

Sorry, but I can't explain it any better. So good night
 

ypg

2017-07-09 23:03:41
  • #4
For someone who has no clue at all, you sure are letting off a lot of steam here [emoji53]

In short, greetings
 

Farilo

2017-07-09 23:06:35
  • #5

(If you mean me by that: Please, no false sensitivity now.
I am not insulting anyone. Think about it.)

I’m going through the thread and your answers again now. I think I have a complete thinking error. Because I believe we are completely talking past each other... See you soon.
 

Farilo

2017-07-09 23:17:57
  • #6


Summer-daytime-door open = moisture in.
Summer-nighttime-door open = moisture out.

If that’s true, then what’s the point of all the insulation?

For the winter! Ok. Let’s see...



Winter-daytime-door open = very cold and bone dry. -> Heating and expensive. Insulation would then be somewhat counterproductive because cold air can’t escape easily and must be heated first with high energy expenditure?

Expensive either way! One without prior investment in insulation and the other with?

How does the argument hold that, for example, natural stone absorbs daytime heat more slowly but also releases it more slowly? So the stored warmth can partly end up inside the house, which in turn saves heating costs? Is that nonsense?
Whereas a heavily insulated house doesn’t let solar radiation/heat into the house at all and thus can’t pass it on?

Is that one of those myths that sound good but are simply wrong in practice?

I need to train as a mason, natural scientist, physicist, mathematician, and biologist. Otherwise, I just don’t get it.
 

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