Dowry hunter - Aunt's partner tries to cheat the grandmother

  • Erstellt am 2018-07-13 15:34:03

ypg

2018-07-13 22:51:55
  • #1
I can understand the "fears."

After all, the person who lives closer is the one at the lever. They can, whether during their lifetime or later, embezzle and sell various valuable things... usually, you can't prove anything.
You have to live with that, be gracious, forgive.
On the other hand, I don't believe that nowadays one can still clumsily meddle with the land and bank register.

I experienced it myself, I was included in the will, but strangely there was no jewelry, no wedding ring, not even anything from the library was given to me. The Brockhaus had to be bought from the estate by us who live farther away.
 

HilfeHilfe

2018-07-14 06:35:33
  • #2
Brockhaus ?? Isn't that the Wiki )
 

Alex85

2018-07-14 09:50:54
  • #3
You can now get those things for twenty-five bucks on Ebay. Craziest price drop ever. But it was probably more of an emotional purchase.
 

ypg

2018-07-14 12:19:20
  • #4



Limited edition with gold trim, gentlemen.
You don't look inside, but rather it decorates a bookshelf in an elegant way instead of colorful paperbacks like Donald Duck
And yes, it is exactly what you keep as a memory. Or a piece of jewelry (but that didn't exist anymore)
 

Payday

2018-07-14 20:32:59
  • #5
a very difficult topic.

1.) you are afraid that someone will take "your" money away from you. that makes you no better than the uncle.
2.) the thing with changing the inheritance is kind of nonsense. if anything, one can challenge the deceased’s will and somehow have it declared invalid, but definitely not change it (after all, it is the last will and you cannot ask for changes).
3.) you are "deliberately" going there to dissuade grandma from changing the will. which again supports point 1.
4.) the relatives sit at grandma’s door every week. they "take care" of her, whatever that means. and if it means that they come on Sundays for coffee and quote "eat everything away from you" (which in turn only sounds like envy), but they are there. grandma is definitely happy about the visits. you only come by once and want to talk about her death right away.

and from the other side:

1.) very old people often do not change their will. one was made earlier when both were alive, one died, the other inherited everything. now the last surviving person usually does not care at all what happens afterward. a new will for old people is considered a high hurdle in their belief with a notary etc. plus, they have to deal with their own death.
2.) a gift or something similar has to be at least 10 years ago in order not to become part of the estate. with grandma being 97 years old, it is highly unlikely she will reach 108. so there is no need to worry about that.
3.) grandma could sell the house to the uncle or make an agreement that the uncle, for example, pays for the nursing home. however, he will not get away with paying 1,000€ per month for a year and then inheriting a house worth 500,000€.
4.) in case of emergency, a certificate of inheritance is issued. it clearly determines who will be the heirs. it is impossible to be bypassed there since the whole thing is done officially by the authorities. the process also costs a lot of money (a percentage of the estate).
5.) if the certificate of inheritance lists, for example, 4 heirs (e.g., 2 grandchildren and 2 children), each will be registered proportionally in the land register of the property. the sale of the property would be ONLY possible if ALL sign. so it is impossible to cheat you here. the purchase price is inevitably known to you since it is an essential part of the notarized contract.
6.) usually all income from sales is deposited into the deceased’s account. because the account itself is also part of the estate (whether it has a plus or minus balance...), and then the heirs meet at the bank to arrange the payout and closure of the account. for this, the certificate of inheritance is required so the bank knows who gets how much.
7.) as long as the house is not sold, costs arise for it. these are usually paid from the deceased’s account if there is a certificate of inheritance (before that, the account is normally blocked). usually one heir will take care of the matters so that things move forward. he mostly has access to the account and can pay bills or commission someone to do something on the house (e.g., keep the garden area nice, otherwise no one will buy it). if someone messes up here, the bank staff will see that and will of course adjust the payout accordingly in the end. the person should get a certain "fee" though, as he has a lot of work...

I have gone through the whole story with my aunt, who never cared about my grandparents. in the end, everything depends on being able to solve it peacefully anyway.
 

kaho674

2018-07-14 20:41:19
  • #6
: Did you read the entire text? If not, I’m not going to write everything again that I have already explained to the others. To make it very clear, sorry if that sounds arrogant, but apparently no one understands it otherwise: we don’t need the money from a possible inheritance of grandma’s house at all. I just don’t want that scoundrel to cheat my beloved mother even in death, because he didn’t manage to do so while she was alive. And of course, nothing should happen to my grandma either.

But thank you very much for the rest of the text! Very informative.
 

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