Bungalow with gable roof, edge development, 8×17 meters

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blaupuma

2018-04-30 23:48:34
  • #1
Just a quick question for the bungalow residents:

What is your hallway width and is that okay?

Mine is only 1.20 cm, unfortunately I can't make it wider. :-(
I have 6.5 m length.

Thanks for the info. And feel free to include a photo too
 

ypg

2018-05-01 00:05:58
  • #2


What is reflected in you in "would like a bungalow," "looking into the green, -> east, south," etc. [emoji6]

These are already statements that make building more expensive or can make it more expensive.
Since I cannot quote everything in Tapatalk, I will do it from memory in the text, just what stuck with me.

And it is like this, that a bungalow is nice and practical, but also more expensive than a one-story house with attic conversion.
And even if I don’t see where it is being built and prefer to stay out of these regional discussions up to a certain point, I must/can say
A) the building window is too small for an (efficient) bungalow
B) if a bungalow is to be built, it will only be an architect’s house, which must be planned very skillfully and therefore is not cheap!!!

Then there are some conditions from you "nicely built into the green." I would like to say that it depends on you to design every corner of the plot green. From every window one could look into the green. So one should not restrict themselves with a problematic plot with a corset, restricting oneself with an average 5-meter building depth even more, when many things are linked with conditions. Of course, one wants the optimum, but here one cannot necessarily do other than what is possible [emoji6]

Every corner of the plot is worth appreciating. So the north may house the trash bins, in the east you could place a greenhouse, and in the west a barbecue area and a sundowner terrace could be created.

For an entrance area, 1.20 m is too small. I come from an apartment and an end terraced house, so I am not exactly used to exclusivity. 1.20 m is just enough for a front door of one meter width without side windows! It is not enough to spread out and feel comfortable. I would be annoyed to have to enter such a house every day.
That’s about the hallway.
One might think it can’t be done differently than lining up the rooms one after the other here. If it is so, then one should be able to stage this disadvantage.

I sketched once. If you don’t get the numbers from the thread starter, you have to work with sketches and estimates. I did that, and it was not exactly what I and others here expected.
The building window definitely does not play in the league of cost-effectiveness. A building with attic conversion is more effective and – to be honest – also not bad to live in.

Regarding the requested costs: turnkey today usually means what is offered without floor coverings and painting.
A shell is without plaster and screed, and also without installations.
Since you mentioned "water connections and electricity," I think an offer at your place could be "technically complete."
That means: closed shell with technology inside, including heating. Everything else is then up to you. But that can also mean the exterior plaster and many other things; a lot of information is missing here. And yes: that can easily mean an extra 50,000 or more in additional costs in EL.

Connection costs for water, electricity, and gas come separately and are calculated with the connection utility as part of the incidental construction costs, where earthworks, etc. also appear.
Certainly, I have now forgotten some noteworthy components...
Attached is your building window in a sketch according to the site plan information.
I also sketched a possible layout, where corners outside the building window are also found (south), which should definitely be submitted by an architect with rhetorical and technical skills.
That reminds me that you wrote elsewhere (topic building application) that you adhere to your plan according to the development plan and do not need approval... I see this differently here because every boundary crossing must be fought for here.
Attachment coming right away...




All well and good: but kitchen and pleated blinds do _not_ belong to the incidental construction costs, please.
That belongs to personal furnishing, just like lamps.
Built-in lights may be an exception...
Outdoor facilities are also a separate item.

Calculable for the bank:
Plot
House
Incidental construction costs
Outdoor facilities
Garage/carport

Everything else you have to have ready:
Furniture, kitchen, lamps, ancillary purchase costs
 

Grit Stephan

2018-05-01 02:07:33
  • #3

...If you don't stick to your plan. I wrote about that.
Our plan is not set yet. And if the plan beforehand already says that the bungalow will be too expensive overall, then we wouldn't build it either...
Or I also wrote that we would accept an additional cost for a bungalow if we find the right solution...

And yes, the building window is a difficulty; I only wrote that our house cannot be moved much to the back or downwards.

However, this boundary crossing is still possible depending on the overall project. Since the bungalow could fit well with the other planned houses and the municipality could possibly "cooperate." But I don't need to ask the authorities if it is not yet decided from our side whether we want to build a bungalow or this bungalow. And whether there would be a boundary crossing, and if so, to what extent.

And the view into the greenery does not refer only to the garden but is more extensive.

That I could also plan the bedrooms facing north and thus possibly have other options, including for the hallway, we have also "played through."
But I hoped, through the forum, to gather more ideas so that we could "move forward" with our bungalow plan and implement my ideas.

And ultimately, I don't have to take a standard house from a "large" house-building company where every change costs extra. And even with architects or general contractors including their own architects, a bungalow can be built in a normal price range. And that is what needs to be found out...
And maybe also in the way you sketched it as an L-shaped bungalow. Of course, I would try to avoid boundary crossing as much as possible.
But unfortunately, you also came to the conclusion that the room layout with my requirements is not so easy to implement.
 

11ant

2018-05-01 02:15:56
  • #4
That would be possible, and even more. In the meantime, I have received the development plan via PM and can hardly believe it – the conditions are really great: site coverage ratio 0.6 / floor area ratio 1.2 / eaves height 11 m above an adjacent street as reference level. Thanks to the size of the plot, even a two-story building with a pencil-pointed roof would be possible

Yes, or mirrored north/south. Or this as well: So there are now several alternatives under discussion. Here you can nicely see how the proportions align when you place the hallway more centrally instead of lining up everything except secondary rooms facing south. Not in this case, this is really a development plan to kiss: bay windows, corners, etc. may protrude up to one and a half meters beyond the building limits without a big state funeral.
 

Grit Stephan

2018-05-01 02:28:06
  • #5


Many thanks for your efforts. I’m really happy that you are so interested in dealing with my request. Now I only need from you the perfect solution :* for my ideas, so that my Stephan is happy with it too, because although he agrees with my ideas, the thing with the hallway and this ratio... is not yet all settled so that we say, yes, this is how we build.
 

11ant

2018-05-01 02:41:54
  • #6
This insight is already worth a lot. One regularly encounters in forums – any similarities to this one are purely coincidental – builders who are convinced that they are only a hair's breadth away from the philosopher's stone (even though there are still worlds in between). Do you want to show your attempts at an angled bungalow (possibly even if they are unfinished)?
 

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