So! My quotes are set, and you come along with my suggestion ;)
But what you write speaks in favor of separating the conservatory. Why should I have a 10-person table standing there when I usually sit there with two + child(ren). That feels weird, doesn’t it?
With an attached conservatory, I rather have this option area that I can fall back on. Or am I making a thinking error here?
I wanted to point out to you that you are making a thinking error. If you plan 2 dining areas, one for everyday use and one for big celebrations, that may sound great (look, 2 dining areas) but also with the catch that one lies fallow and everything is tight together overall.
Therefore, I advocate for your variant 4, however modified. Door opposite the terrace door, stove position not exactly so that people bump into your back, etc.
we also often just sit at the counter as a couple and look outside while eating.
If you like sitting at the counter, then there is the U variant where you sit nose in front of a window. Otherwise, I have already mentioned the neck under the head ;) However, you can also get used to other things.
I still tried to sketch it very casually. Another advantage: the room can lose a meter of depth without loss of quality.
:eek: For God’s sake, how can you stay under a 3-meter island??? Joking aside: you write that you bustle a lot in the kitchen. So why do you plan a show cube? The length is mega exhausting and ergonomics are not achieved with it. Also, a work island is counterproductive for a buffet. Make a U and distribute the work surfaces optimally. Your kitchen salesperson will plan what you want and not what promises advantages.
Regarding the L-shape with integrated conservatory as dining area: the bigger the table, the better. Two sit opposite each other by the window, three is also possible, four all look to the terrace ;) What cannot be filled by lack of people is decorated, serves as a laptop or sewing machine work table, puzzle shelf or play area. And the living room is separated by the area in between. I am for it :)
I will place a sofa in front of each window. :eek: I don’t find the distance bad at all. A grand piano is fixed, then my wife’s plant shelves will go there.
What does "not bad at all" mean? If there is plenty of space, there is nothing more generous and airy than space between terrace doors and sofa. Only everyone is against it and makes flower windows under the sofa because a) there isn’t enough space to be wasteful with it and b) the additional windows are usually expensive for the general contractor. It’s like with the stairs: at the entrance area they are optimal if space is scarce. The larger the living area, the more you can afford to take the stairs out of the corner.