Variants for furnishing the all-purpose room

2021-05-25 10:47:02

I keep wondering why people who defend and like their floor plan even post it here at all. Personally, I would never let my individual wishes (which are reflected in the floor plan) be discussed in a forum by complete strangers from all age groups with very different needs.

You have to be clear that people look at the floor plan, compare it with their own needs, and then give their opinion accordingly. Whether that really helps the original poster, I don’t know. You can also ask very specific questions that are meant to clarify truly objective matters, but such intimate things as floor plans? No idea if that’s productive. I rather believe that the original poster drifts further and further away from what they want until it ends up as a "great" generic soup floor plan from the 5-6 people who comment heavily here.

For example, floor plans are posted in the KI forum that are neither ergonomic nor smart in terms of workflow (in my view) and are actually a disaster. The people who comment and criticize already built their own floor plans and then sugarcoat it—I always wonder, when that person gives me advice/opinions but has built (in my view) the ugliest house/kitchen ever, how does that make sense? I’ve been around here for a few weeks now and regarding floor plans, nothing really useful has come out for the people—just the same discussions over and over, and in the end a generic soup forum "this is impossible and if then only with 1 million budget" opinion emerges. Not helpful. What’s most annoying: people never answer the questions but immediately question the whole house (although they themselves probably live in a house into which the original poster would never move).

This comment is one of the best I’ve ever read here! Exactly, what you describe has happened: the big picture is questioned instead of dealing with the concrete question. Anyone can do that, but then it just doesn’t help me. My life, our space requirements, our daily routine, everything is individual and has to fit us.

It won’t be a generic soup, that’s for sure. But I still take the comments seriously. In the end, it’s like a challenge to rethink and review your own floor plan from every direction again.

2021-05-25 10:49:09

everyone has to make their mistakes as parents and builders themselves.

For me, such a comment also goes too far. There is so much assumption involved. I don't know what you have to process for yourself that makes you believe I would be a bad mother just because we don't sleep sustainably on one floor.

2021-05-25 10:50:22

I believe the problem primarily lies in the fact that in most cases laypersons ask questions or share their ideas here. That often means these are fundamental problems that go unrecognized or are found in the drafts. Thus, it is always the same points. This forum is basically more of a layperson forum where it is easy for the occasional "advanced user" to show off by uncovering the obvious mistakes. Once these are understood, the actual work can begin, but in most cases, it either does not happen (anymore?) here or the occasional "consultation-resistant" person might not be capable of imagining everything or willing to give up all degrees of freedom.

However, the methodological approach in the forum actually works quite well to "get the layperson on track" in order to be able to compete against or better with a general contractor [GU] or similar, or to express their needs clearly in the first place.

One might complain about the tone from time to time but should not forget that this is leisure time and if you sacrifice your time to help others, you can also help determine a little of the ground rules.

I find it unfair to fundamentally speak of uniformity, but most threads simply do not leave much room for maneuver, most homebuilders fit the classic pattern and have too many frictions pushing them towards the "standard." If the variant "parents' wing downstairs" as in this thread is already far from the standard, then it frightens me a bit... although I find it not so common, it should still work according to the same rules.

2021-05-25 10:56:26

You mentioned many good points! Thanks for that! Fortunately, it’s not as bad as you describe. For example, there is a skylight and light from the upper floor. Nevertheless, with the right lighting, the staircase is still properly highlighted. Regarding the dressing room, I have considered completely removing the window. Light fades clothes and stirs up dust. Both options will have their supporters. The door size to the open-plan room is also flexible; maybe a double door will be installed. Overall, good points, great and helpful comment! Thanks!

2021-05-25 10:59:18

but you wouldn’t do that at three in the morning when you are woken up by a screaming or vomiting child. but well. try it out. everyone has to make their own mistakes as parents and builders.

I generally find your advice quite good, but I don’t know, have you been through all of that and are these real experiences?

If so, then I really feel sorry for you, it’s certainly hard.

But it can also be done differently! In the past 10 years, I haven’t once woken up at 3 or 4 in the morning or any other time because I had a vomiting child. We have had a 1.60 m bed from the start and still do, and yes, our child has already found their place there.

The only reason I ever woke up at night was because I myself constantly felt the need to check if the child was still alive, since she never made a sound.

Is that the rule? No, of course not, but the other side doesn’t have to apply to everyone either.

@TE: I find the suggestions here about the different sleeping levels justified, but you have also already written that you can sleep upstairs later if necessary.

So this point should be allowed to be let go as well, please.

2021-05-25 11:00:20

For me, such a comment also goes too far. There is so much assumption involved. I don't know what you have to process yourself to believe that I would be a bad mother just because we don't sleep on the same floor sustainably.

I never wrote that with a single word. All parents can tell how they imagined things with their child and how it actually turned out later. That’s what I meant by own mistakes. You can’t prevent those. It just belongs to it. But it doesn’t matter. You wanted to know if it works to enlarge the living area at the expense of the bedroom. Actually, you just want to hear a "yes, it’s okay" here. I would say such a small bedroom with an inward-opening door is already very tight and tendentially uncomfortable for a couple alone and definitely not suitable later in life if you want to think about accessibility. Or if you walk on crutches for a month after a skiing accident... With a baby or small children, a 1.80 m bed in a 3 m room in a single-family house is unnecessarily tight. The living area could be enlarged more easily elsewhere and bring added value.

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Variants for furnishing the all-purpose room

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