Single-family house with staggered floor, southwest location in Bonn

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Baufie

2020-12-01 19:54:43
  • #1
I like it already significantly better than the architect’s plan.

A few comments from my side. I would integrate the garage into the house in your plan. So, slot it into the utility room on the ground floor and shorten the utility room to the small area next to your wardrobe.
Upstairs, I would convert the utility room into a children's bathroom, shrink it a bit, and for that purpose align room 10 on the wall side towards the gallery flush with the utility room.
The staircase exit on the upper floor is on the right side of the plan, right? Put a door into that room, adjust it a little, make this the bedroom, then the middle room as a dressing room, and the room on the left side of the plan as a bathroom, and put a door there leading out to the gallery as well. That would kill two birds with one stone. The bathroom wouldn’t be enclosed and the drainage could either be combined with the toilet on the ground floor or run through the garage.

Thumbs up for your approach.
 

ypg

2020-12-01 22:04:12
  • #2

On the right side of the plan, 1.5/2 meters away from the glass pane... then on the right, the entrance to the parents’ area. Dressing room, bathroom, bedroom... a lot can be moved or adjusted...


I have to be honest: I put this together in about 15 minutes. I know that the stepped floor regulation must be complied with, and I wasn’t very exact about that... that is the architect’s job, not mine, especially if I just want to show something quickly.

What really surprised me in the discussion earlier was how little attention was paid to this “space-saving staircase” (although the desire for a clearer line guidance at the staircase was explicitly mentioned) and how this corridor, which is not only straight but also angles off and thus has the charm of 30-degree-angled walls due to lack of space in the attic of a semi-detached house, was talked up.
I think it’s wrong to keep making the same design ever worse only in details, but here it seems obvious that the kitchen location and the panorama side will not be moved anymore, not least because of the orientation. It is a wish, after all, and it mentally fits the stepped floor in Bauhaus edition.
Unfortunately, I no longer looked at page 1, so I don’t even know what was demanded. But I do remember the small emergency stairs and the nice sightlines. The last design shares no handwriting with the first.


The problem is that oversized rooms have the disadvantage for other rooms in a unit that you need long corridors for their access. In the Bauhaus edition, continuous rooms are often accessed by a virtual straight corridor and not by real enclosed ones.
On one hand, you benefit from a large window façade, which is designed large so that other parts of the house can also benefit from it, but in the other half of the house the Bauhaus style hasn’t arrived at all. There it is planned provincially, even with a bay window—and apparently demanded by you as well?
What is planned generously and cleanly in the kitchen is missed in the rest of the house.
......
I have now reread the thread up to page 14.
Is there already a dimensioned site plan?
Must the stepped floor be inserted on all sides?

Otherwise, I would have the thought (also because of cost savings—I read something about 600,000 :p):
Living/dining area crosswise (i.e. current office/guest and dining area one), where now the living room is, the separated kitchen there, the current kitchen as office/guest/piano room. Northern corner, so between living and kitchen, a pantry including utility room... enlarge the front utility room (by the garage) and storage room.
Adjust sizes for possibly a hobby room or another office... since there is no basement :cool:
Above all already recessed in stepped manner and see whether everything is enough for you. How much living space from below may be planned above?
Is it worth constructing an idea there or detailing tonight’s idea?
Or what don’t you like? Do you like the staircase or would you prefer to stick with the double-turned one in the bay?


Yes, also a good approach!
 

Alessandro

2020-12-02 07:50:00
  • #3
I find your floor plan very good, although it does not resemble the OP's very much. You are not a fan of hallways, I understand that now. But that doesn't matter...
 

Benrath

2020-12-02 10:30:07
  • #4
Sorry, we currently have no internet at home and it’s a bit difficult via phone. First of all, thanks for the effort and the suggestion. It’s true, I had thought of a more elongated staircase in my idea, like you suggest. Maybe we let the architect talk us out of it a bit. Specifically, what I like about your suggestion is the staircase :) But I have to say I wouldn’t like the connection between the kitchen and the living room. You could also just remove the corner, but then you’d always have to go through two doors from the kitchen to the living room. I don’t like the wing into the guest room. Upstairs, I’d find the hallway better, but the parents’ area very narrow. The side on the right is the nice side, facing the garden and the further view out, because the next house is rather far away there. But okay, you could shorten room 10 and have more doors, etc. The first idea to do the staircase like that would be a suggestion to the architect and then we could see. The area upstairs is 66% of the ground floor and set back at least 1m except in the stairwell. Generally about the idea to integrate the garage into the utility room? How am I supposed to imagine that? Then the garage runs continuously into the house? Is that a good idea technically and for insulation? On the other hand, it makes sense from the plot to put the garage where it is, because it occupies an area that otherwise is not in the building field. Other questions: Yes, there is a dimensioned site plan. What and where is a bay window planned for us? I think I don’t understand the term. Do you mean that at the guest area? Below is the deduction and then you wouldn’t have to build set back there if it’s approved. I don’t find the other suggestion so sensible regarding the orientation of the house. Then I would put the guest area in the sunniest and nicest corner of the plot. I find the general idea to place the living/dining and kitchen area in the southwest axis almost inevitable. The building window is rather towards the upper left on the plot (can be roughly guessed from the first scan of the first post). The best view is to the right on the floor plan where the living room window front is. We had once thought about swapping the kitchen and guest area ourselves because the suggestion came up. I don’t see it. If I missed anything, please ask again :)
 

Baufie

2020-12-02 11:01:25
  • #5
Did you find this one here in the forum or somewhere in the depths of the internet? Because if I am correct, only the "first" draft is in the forum, which was completely revised afterwards. Our hallways on the ground floor and upper floor are not exactly small.
 

Alessandro

2020-12-02 11:07:36
  • #6
Apparently, I only found the first draft.
 

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