Single-family house, 1.5 stories, 155 sqm

  • Erstellt am 2025-01-04 15:20:08

hanse987

2025-01-05 09:20:38
  • #1
Let's summarize.

- You want to build an affordable house but have very specific wishes. You need a good planner for that because the smaller the house, the more difficult it gets.
- There are a number of well-tested floor plans on the market, but you have to give up your special wishes for those.

Personally, I would set the draft aside as a nice attempt and take one of the upper variants. Why are you under so much pressure with the funding? Pressure during planning is a bad advisor, especially when it comes to probably the biggest investment in your life. Things that are forgotten during planning can often be fixed in a second step, but that costs money and often more than if you had taken the time for it right from the start.
 

Mone_04

2025-01-05 11:09:51
  • #2
Hello everyone,

thank you very much for all your input and your thoughts. We had assessed the floor plan as relatively good for a layperson and are grateful for your objections, even though it does hurt a bit, of course. The pressure from the funding is also semi-optimal; we will check what options we have here, but is of course right in what he says. We will now put our efforts into finding a good planner and taking another look at standard floor plans. But here is the question: how do I find a good planner? To be honest, I am worried about ending up with a design that does not fully exploit its potential and having paid a lot of money for it – I am also willing to spend money on this, because a good design can obviously save a lot of money and problems down the line. However, I have read enough threads where designs by planners have been heavily criticized.

How can I minimize this risk?
 

K a t j a

2025-01-05 16:30:34
  • #3
I have the feeling that you are getting somewhat entangled with requirements that, when looked at closely, are only half as dramatic. For example, I find it unproblematic if the children's rooms are on the west side instead of the south side, because otherwise the entire rest would suffer. With a gable roof, you usually add roof windows anyway. It could then look something like this:

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I find the proposed site plan much more questionable. The long driveway including the access is quite a challenge. Is that worth the south garden, especially since you then also have the terrace facing the street?

If it were mine, I would bring the house and garage closer to the street and would probably be happy with a northwest terrace. Especially in summer, that is the ideal spot.
 

ypg

2025-01-05 19:06:27
  • #4
I probably would too: window areas facing south, west, and north with a terrace in the northwest. The west terrace also benefits from the sun in the south; in the north it might be more pleasant, at least with a garden view that can then be nicely arranged on the slope to the north. Sloping upward is always nicer for plants and flowerbeds; sloping downward is not nice because it feels like you're rolling off the property onto the street.
 

11ant

2025-01-05 19:37:11
  • #5

In combination with ...

... unfortunately this results in a problem that blocks itself against solutions. I won’t have time during the current quarter to say more about the design than what has already been said here regarding where and why it doesn’t work (and thus also no time to develop solution proposals). I think the scheduling situation among colleagues will not be significantly different. I am not even going to provide detailed criticism here because the design fundamentally fails in a key point (head clearance of the staircase) and cannot be economically fixed. Therefore, the design is basically dead. At least examples of the functional designs that “did not fit at all” as well as criticism of those could be beneficial for the discussion. I see a lack of talent for planning on your part and fear that companies you ask for suggestions will, as usual, present unsatisfactory designs. So please name model designations and your reasons for dislike.


I can only fully agree with both.

No, that wouldn’t help; it would already require a Frankenstein-proportioned "captain’s bay window". But since you do not understand this detail despite your own drawing, it reinforces my fears that you won’t figure it out without an architect. It’s best to give up on the idea of an unprecedented staircase bay window for good reasons. Your enthusiasm for a house design will presumably not decisively fail due to a “usual” staircase location (?)

Then name names (warning – without links!)

Fine!

Very well recognized!

I’ll wait for your design tomorrow first. Otherwise, feel free to contact me – or where you can find "A house-building roadmap, also for you: the HOAI phase model!"

… does not sound to me like a necessity for a bespoke design, so you could also be accompanied by an independent building consultant for the selection and adaptation of a catalog house. The most heavily criticized plans from planners here are those from “draft slaves” (i.e., draftsmen or architects of general contractors), with criticism mainly based on the fact that laymen’s designs are only very incompletely improved this way. With tame adjustments to catalog houses, you will have good chances with a “normal family” (two adults, two children, no monkey or horse) (and to get things done quickly). With the upcoming federal election, time pressure is off anyway, since current funding programs probably won’t survive a government change essentially unchanged.
 

Mone_04

2025-01-06 15:40:31
  • #6

Thank you very much for this suggestion. I had something similar once, but my upper floor looked completely different. Since I hadn’t rotated the ridge, it didn’t work quite as well.
The only thing I don’t like about the upper floor is the options for placing cabinets. In the children’s rooms, it shouldn’t be much of a problem due to their size, but in the bedroom it would be good if the cabinets could go behind the door so the room can be better arranged. Of course, this is only possible if the utility room is shortened accordingly, or does anyone see other possibilities?


Thank you for your and opinion. It is certainly something to consider; we have so far been very focused on the south garden. We will think it over again. But how would you do it with a house that is so close to a street (30 km/h zone and only an access road for the rest of the residential area with maybe 15 houses) regarding windows and room layout? Would you, as currently planned, have the kitchen/dining room facing southwest and the living room facing west-north? At the moment I can’t imagine what it would be like to have such an open dining room so close to the street, but maybe that’s just a mental barrier for me. I would be grateful for some impressions here.


Thanks to your criticism, I have realized this – I have no idea why we had such a “board in front of our head.” I always considered only the first landing as a problem, not the entire head clearance.


Fortunately, this is a state subsidy. But of course, this is never guaranteed either.
 

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