L-shaped floor plan - What is your opinion?

  • Erstellt am 2020-03-22 23:12:57

Pinky0301

2020-03-23 13:06:46
  • #1
About the roof terrace, I can only say: you hardly or never use it if you have a garden. In your case, it wouldn't even be usable as a parent terrace if you sleep on the ground floor.
 

11ant

2020-03-23 13:20:25
  • #2
As far as I am not wearing the wrong glasses, the garage is placed in front of an otherwise windowed side and in front of the entrance door (?)

Besides, I join the plea not to build a driveway as a maneuvering training ground.


Man plans, woman cleans


I would say this is almost a fundamental decision like between hybrid and purely electric cars.


I had already understood the concept of avoiding a full upper floor by enlarging the ground floor, however ...

... I hadn’t noticed the setback of the upper floor at first – otherwise I would have criticized it already: that is double nonsense, meaning a structural cost driver with the added downside of ugly appearance. If you like the Tuscan stepped design, however, I do not understand your rejection of @haydees Schwörerhaus suggestion.





So what now? – if that is all there is and no requirement for the upper floor to be set back is given, I would also leave it as it is. Terraces on the ground floor protrusions generate areas attributable to the upper floor, so they are counterproductive for avoiding a full story there.

“For cost reasons a hipped roof” – I hadn’t heard that joke before. Hipped roof, because you have too much money?


b. and c. I fully agree with, a. I see differently: KfW40+ without concrete reason is an unnecessary gold plating for fans of bio-labels.


Exactly backwards: first the room program, then the upper floor, and afterwards the ground floor. Plan downward, build upward.


There were plenty. “Leave that” is no less concrete than “do this”!

Finally a word about the slanted wall sections: not every retro comes back into fashion; this quote from 1980s apartment block architecture is today a minus point for resale. Originality should be used like a spice – not like a staple side dish.
 

Ypsi aus NI

2020-03-23 13:51:40
  • #3
Hello 11ant,

unfortunately, I haven’t figured out yet how to quote passages nicely, like you just did...?!

So, then it goes like this:

The garage is next to the house, but not in front of the entrance door, house width: approx. 14m, garage width approx. 9m. So approx. 5m of free wall from the house (the area where no garage is in front). A straight driveway into the garage would certainly be nicer, but to enable this, the whole house would have to be moved further back and that would block a lot of garden space.

Again about the upper floor: Sorry if that was too unclear. The wish is to have full room height upstairs and that results in the recessed version, because: We are not allowed to build two full stories, so the upper floor must be smaller than the ground floor. We really like the style of the Mediterranean town villa, see initial post!
During the planning meetings I asked exactly the question about the higher costs due to statics if the upper floor is recessed.
Answer: ‘That will probably hardly be noticeable. For that, you have smaller rooms (in terms of floor area, so cheaper), but fully valid (no slanted ceilings).’
Building wall on wall would mean larger rooms upstairs (higher costs), but with sloped ceilings. Cost-wise it is almost the same (estimation by the architect!).
Whether that is really true... The architect and the other construction companies have to calculate that very concretely...
A hip roof is definitely cheaper than a flat roof, right?
According to the architect, the roof terrace (not a covered loggia) does not count towards the living space calculation.

first the room program, then the upper floor, and afterwards the ground floor. Plan downwards, build upwards.
I am actually reading and hearing this for the very first time!

A "let it be" only helps to a limited extent, since it doesn’t offer any other solution except to (rightfully) criticize.

The main problem with the arrangement of the bathroom and bedroom has been criticized many times (rightfully), but suggestions came only from two people.
I know it’s not optimal myself. If I had a different idea, I would already have incorporated it. But I don’t, and so I am looking for suggestions

If I thought the floor plan was perfect, I wouldn’t post it here...
 

Ypsi aus NI

2020-03-23 13:53:56
  • #4


Exactly! It would only be a treat for planned children!
In this respect: this would be the first cut. I'm still curious about how much extra the roof terraces would cost if everything else remained unchanged. The architects had a really hard time with a price estimate and preferred to calculate it properly and precisely. I think that's good, it just increases my curiosity for an answer.
 

Matthew03

2020-03-23 14:12:43
  • #5


Nope.
 

Ypsi aus NI

2020-03-23 14:17:27
  • #6
Is that so? I mean a flat roof that can also be walked on and used as a terrace. Is such a roof still cheaper than a hipped roof?
 

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