Development plan unclear regarding the number of floors and height on the slope

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-03 16:28:28

hanghaus2023

2022-12-04 18:22:42
  • #1
Does your construction partner already have the elevation plan?
 

sque1989

2022-12-04 18:24:02
  • #2


He read it himself from the Geoportal and said he would do it with that. I don't know anything about an official survey.
 

ypg

2022-12-04 20:49:46
  • #3
hm… I think point 2.4 explains quite well how high your EG is allowed to be. If you build without UG, then OK finished floor EG applies. You just need to use a set square for that. Removing or filling in is usually not desired in these building areas, by the way. That is why the builder is given the option with the possibility of building with UG. In my eyes, a fair compromise.

If you only want to build 80 sqm, then that is your individual fate and actually does not fit at all in this building area.

I myself have little contact with slopes and personally don't like cellars either. But in a neighboring town of ours, there is an extreme incline on a residential street. There you see the beautiful terraced houses clinging to the slope, mostly with generous window areas on several levels, each individual house an architectural unique piece. Noticeable are here and there some with a rather steep staircase leading serpentinely to the front door. However, the foundations at the front of the houses without UG are no longer visible, as they have been integrated into the garden design over decades. When you write that you only want to build 80 sqm, I ask myself whether you have already factored in the technology and storage space, which is otherwise the cellar room in an apartment. I’ll put it this way: it hardly makes sense to build a 2-room apartment as a single-family house. Even less so on a sloping plot. Not economically or financially comprehensible. Since we do not know your space program here, I’ll take the offensive and ask whether there really is a realistic space program for you or a bungalow. If you still see potential there (you can also have your ideas for a house design discussed here), then I would consider a hobby room or another nice feature of self-realization, which could have room next to the freezer and storage room in the UG. Because you have to use stairs anyway… the plot is definitely not barrier-free and will not become so. Otherwise, I would advise you not to buy this plot in your place.
 

sque1989

2022-12-04 21:25:37
  • #4


So either excavation or filling has to be done on a slope anyway, I don’t quite understand this statement. On a very steep slope I definitely see your explanation, as it can’t be done any other way reasonably. But this plot has about 10% average slope and I think that’s not extremely much and placing a bungalow on half of it should be nicely possible, but maybe we’re too optimistic there.

A three-room apartment as a bungalow is planned. Everything including technical and storage space is already included in the 80 sqm. Economic viability is not our focus. It is our wish to own a home to be able to design it the way we want. Still, we see no reason to build more space than we need to live, and I don’t think there is anything fundamentally wrong with this space program.

To what extent there is still potential for change is of course a good question. We have been at it quite a while and are pretty frustrated already and thought this plot might finally make it happen, so maybe.

That our project simply does not fit into this area may of course be true. But if I stand in front of the plot, I would find it hard to understand that because I think it would fit in well. But that might also be deceptive.

Well, we’ll see how things go. Thanks for the honest words.
 

ypg

2022-12-04 22:29:22
  • #5
Well, digging a foundation or leveling the garden has little to do with excavation or filling. You don’t have to set it at half height. The level for the top edge is measured at half, which serves as a height reference. I don’t know the significance of the bungalow for you or why you want to call your house a bungalow. Usually, such builders want barrier-free living, but that’s out of the question with a sloped plot anyway. If it’s not about economic viability: You are practically free to build a fancy basement and put one or both bedrooms in the gallery area on the ground floor. Amazing, it could be a really great house. Proper south orientation, great slope conditions! That’s rare. There is a “how the municipality regulates it”. In my opinion, that is also correct.
 

hanghaus2023

2022-12-04 22:39:15
  • #6

But the Bayernatlas only gives uniform slopes. I have already tried that too. You don't notice anything from the increased elevation there.

You should have the property surveyed. You need the elevation for the plan anyway.

Before the surveyor does the survey, you can first measure it yourself with a laser and tape measure.

I am still waiting for some pictures of the property. The aerial photo in the Bayernatlas doesn't say anything either.
 

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