WilderSueden
2022-12-05 16:23:24
- #1
Which box is the terrace? I interpreted it as street, garage, house.I have marked a terrace of 8 m on the south side. It might be slightly obscured because of the garage.
Development plan unclear regarding the number of floors and height on the slope
- Erstellt am 2022-12-03 16:28:28
hanghaus2023
2022-12-05 16:27:30
- #2
It depends on how you intercept and how high. There is a very wide range from "we just cut it off a bit" through self-made retaining wall, L-blocks set by the garden landscaper (because they are too heavy to move without an excavator) to natural stone dry stone wall. Since you look at it from your own terrace, you will tend to prefer nicer solutions, which are usually more expensive.
Let's not exaggerate. For this slope, no L-blocks are needed. The small excavation in the north is filled up in the south and that’s fine.
hanghaus2023
2022-12-05 16:29:45
- #3
The blue triangle is the fill.Which box is the terrace? I interpreted it as street, garage, house
sque1989
2022-12-05 17:48:23
- #4
It depends on how you intercept and how high. There is a very wide range from "we just trim it a bit" to self-made retaining walls, L-stones set by a garden landscaper (because too heavy to move without an excavator) to natural stone dry wall. Since you see it from your own terrace, you tend to prefer nicer solutions, which are usually also more expensive.
Ultimately, though, such things reduce the financial advantage of "building without a basement." And at some point, the question is whether it is still a good ratio to pay 50% or more of the basement price to end up without a basement. You will have to make that decision yourself in the end. I would also ask again whether you really only need 80 sqm including basement and storage rooms. Beyond a certain threshold, building smaller only becomes slightly cheaper, because you still need a front door, heating, a bathroom, a kitchen...
For those born in '89, the question of family planning might also arise.
Good points. We are aware that the savings from less living space do not scale linearly with the reduction itself. But we have really thought a lot about how we want to live and this is what came out. Even if there were more space for free, we would probably decline because what use is more space if I don’t need it? Stuff stored that I also don’t need? And I think we certainly won’t get a basement for free on this slope and therefore even a small saving is a saving.
We are aware that this mentality might not be understandable for many, but it makes sense to us. Family planning is also completed.
Nevertheless, thanks a lot for the food for thought, it is very valuable.
sque1989
2022-12-05 17:50:04
- #5
The blue triangle is the fill.
here is the cross-section from our builder. Below is the variant compliant with the development plan (absolutely not practical and we would not buy it that way), but above is the one if we get an exception, and I think it looks quite okay. As far as I can see, it also matches well with your drawing.
WilderSueden
2022-12-05 19:03:00
- #6
Our northern neighbor thought the same. The landscaping gardener wasn't thrilled about the idea, and now L-shaped retaining walls are supposed to be installed there. One meter isn't that little after all, especially if you don't want to slope it at a 45-degree angle. That's fine by me, then during heavy rain the runoff won't flow down to me. I wouldn't leave one meter unsecured either. You can slope it if you really want to save money, but then it's neither nice nor practical. I still consider it clearly inclined towards a hillside house, not a bungalow on a slab. But I don't want to argue stubbornly against it here or force anyone. Accordingly, I'll step out of the topic for now.Let's keep things realistic. For this slope, no L-shaped retaining walls are needed. The small excavation in the north will be filled in the south, and that's fine.