Building cheaply - this is how it can be done too!

  • Erstellt am 2017-10-21 14:00:29

ypg

2017-10-24 12:27:48
  • #1
Completely irrelevant! When it comes to the topic of building cheap here, something like that should be included. Whether you somehow store your waste paper or glass there, such a bag certainly won't be a problem!
 

winnetou78

2017-10-24 12:35:20
  • #2
But it would bother me [emoji13]
 

ypg

2017-10-24 12:58:31
  • #3


You’re also installing expensive roller shutters for your wife [emoji13] (we’re still on the topic of cheap construction [emoji6] ) but don’t be surprised if they’re not shy about breaking in during the day... they also like to take the time when the woman takes the kids to school and the roller shutters are up [emoji848][emoji853] But I basically understand if you want roller shutters for security reasons at night!
 

winnetou78

2017-10-24 12:59:23
  • #4
What if they also take the bag?
 

ypg

2017-10-24 13:02:19
  • #5


It’s inside... and scares off the organized Eastern Europeans, who have more respect for dogs than Germans. Gypsies keep a wide berth [emoji23] In this respect, the feed sack is already 4 years old
 

ruppsn

2017-10-24 13:04:43
  • #6
I think one should differentiate a bit when it comes to the topic of burglary. Against gang-like burglary crews, you are probably helpless up to and including RC4. They get in quickly but most likely also have special tools and plenty of "expertise" and experience. Economically, however, anything above RC3 is probably not worthwhile for the single-family home sector—and even RC3 is often not economically sensible in many cases. In those cases, an alarm system is probably the better investment.

What is probably discussed here, however, is the "spontaneous" burglary in the sense of acquisitive crime or at least not an organized burglary. Since special tools are rarely used there, windows/doors with RC2 on the ground floor or RC2N on the upper floor can already buy valuable minutes and have a deterrent effect. I think I once read somewhere that this type of burglar leaves if he sees no progress in the first 2 minutes. Not without reason do the RC "definitions" come from:

RC2N -> Opportunistic offenders breaking open locked AND bolted components with simple tools (screwdriver, pliers, wedge): 3 minutes resistance

RC2 -> The same as RC2N, but not with "standard glass," rather with safety glass P4A.

RC3 -> "Experienced" offenders additionally using a second tool (crowbar, screwdriver) to break open locked AND bolted components: 5 minutes resistance

Therefore, there is probably little protection against "professional" methods, but maybe some against spontaneous attempts. However, there are also quite a few opinions saying one should neglect all the RC madness and rather rely on motion detectors and a nicely illuminated facade. Others say: great, then you just give the burglar more light. Whatever you do, you do it wrong.

Personally, I go for RC2 on the ground floor, RC2N on the upper floor, and an outer shell monitoring system (which the KNX bus practically provides for free with the window contacts and motion detectors). Since we don’t have roller shutters but only venetian blinds, I don’t rely on shading as an "obstacle," but I wouldn’t do that with roller shutters either—that would be too little for me.

But as many have already written, just as the feeling of security is subjective, so are the protective measures.
 

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