Apartment for parents: 210 m² single-family house and 80 m² apartment

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-22 18:22:31

ypg

2017-07-09 19:15:38
  • #1


I am somewhat speechless. How do you come to let things stand and be discussed when you already see when placing them that it doesn't work?
There are quite a few objects that interfere with each other... for example, one person gets the door right behind their back while sitting, another door can only be used to a third of its width.
In the granny flat, you don't even have to discuss just under 17 sqm for the whole life, with the 40 cm bed surround you can't get up without hitting your head.
 

ypg

2017-07-09 19:37:42
  • #2
Oh, I forgot your quote about the open kitchen: you should definitely know that before planning. Some like it, others don’t. But you should know or at least sense your preference.

P.s. Just paving the driveway alone costs at least 15000 for the labor... is that really what you want?

Regards, Yvonne
 

kbt09

2017-07-09 20:46:08
  • #3
Should the granny flat still be intended for the same target group as before? Ypg, Yvonne has already made the corresponding comments regarding the living room and bedroom, I’m adding the bathroom and the headboard of the bed below the window ... people don’t like to keep the window open while sleeping or have a stiff neck in the morning because of a draft.

Honestly, I’m a bit speechless, space is being saved in essential rooms that serve daily life, but then almost 19 sqm are built to accommodate about max. 7 m of shelves 40 to 50 cm deep and about 3 m of shelves max. 30 cm deep plus a freezer cabinet to make the hallway to the sauna “stylish”. The sauna with 150x150 ... well.

And, the hallway then 12 sqm to fit about 150 cm of wardrobe.

Symmetry of the house entrance is above all.

To get from the kitchen to the terrace ... either through 2 doors or slalom past the dining table/sofa.

Utility room ... in my opinion, that just doesn't work at all? Who is supposed to replace a heating system or something there?

The stairs will be super narrow for transporting furniture upstairs.

What is supposed to happen with the extension’s ground floor in relation to the upper floor?

PS: When will an architect finally be allowed to work on the planning?

And, the granny flat is definitely not for people who want it a bit airier, sunnier or something similar. Terrace space for that?
 

11ant

2017-07-09 21:34:07
  • #4
Yes, that I don't see the time as being used. Maybe it's due to your professional mindset? - this house is still a compact interlocking, as if conceived by a mechanical engineer: the rooms mesh together like gears, and the gaps between them are just enough for the lubricant film. The scale of the construction world with its tolerances in the multi-centimeter range has evidently not become much more familiar to you over the course of previous attempts. The building structure has at least become "clearer" in the main part, but you have retained the construction principle of orienting yourself to minimum distances - consistently up to the point where the next room box can adjoin. It wouldn't take much for new furniture to again have to be bought in the dimensions of their predecessors. Furniture is called that because it is mobile - but so "built-in" in minimum distances, their positions relative to each other can hardly be varied; basically, they could all be screwed down (or the chairs at the table: only linearly movable). Making yourself understood to such a planner (i.e., a clumsy person from the stone age) will not be an easy walk (for either). In my feeling, we had made more progress at one time in the meantime.
 

schustrik

2017-08-08 20:55:45
  • #5
Hello again everyone.

So, there is a new plan and we have planned the granny flat as an extension. What we do not know yet exactly are the window widths and therefore the widths are not 100% determined yet.

In Child 2 room, the corner behind the stairs is a bit strange, would you have a solution for this?

The yellow is the courtyard and we have considered planning it with 2 driveways so that one can drive a small circle in the courtyard. It is 5.5 meters to the garage door, is that enough?

In the living room, there is again an extension which is used as a balcony above.

The heating is on the upper floor in the laundry room so that only one chimney is needed for the fireplace and heating.

In Child room 3, there should also be kitchen connections so that later a kitchen can possibly be installed upstairs and the wall between Child 3 and Parents is removed so that a living/dining area is created on the upper floor. Would this idea be good?

Is this plan fundamentally usable or another disaster?
 

11ant

2017-08-08 22:47:40
  • #6
In brick, KS etc., one usually takes multiples of one eighth of a meter; with aerated concrete, multiples of 5 cm are still practical; I would not use downright "fantasy sizes." Common sizes for interior doors are 88.5 cm (rooms), 76 cm (small bathrooms), or 63.5 cm (guest WCs, storage rooms); for apartment doors 101 cm, for front doors preferably also 113.5 cm; windows single-leaf 101 / 113.5 / 126, double-leaf from 151 cm; toilet windows 76 cm.

To build over the first step is already okay like that.

It will be sufficient according to the building regulations and the development plan, and also in practice with a sectional door.

One chimney yes – but not always one flue, that also depends on the fuels.

Where do you want to make the division on the ground floor so that a separate apartment could be created upstairs?

Both. Maybe a little less of a disaster than before. What remains is, in my opinion, your unfortunate approach. Somehow you seem to approach this with a mouse pad horizon. And for the fetish with the most symmetrical front view, harmonious proportions are sacrificed at many points. Aesthetically, that could prevent exactly what you are actually trying to achieve (?)

The minimum furniture size arrangement seems to be slowly loosening up a bit, but the path is still long overall.
 

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