Apartment for parents: 210 m² single-family house and 80 m² apartment

Well, sauna on the upper floor ... no garden access? The bathroom doesn’t look like it has room for a sauna, except maybe a mini sitting sauna. Plaster and tiles, etc. also have a certain material thickness, by the way.

The sauna is definitely going away now, so it will only become a bathroom.

A dresser as a cloakroom for 5 people and guests? You’re not serious, are you?

It’s only supposed to be for guests, "our" cloakroom and all the things related to it are supposed to be in the storage room by the side entrance, hanging or standing.

What do the parents say about the rather small apartment and especially the bedroom? There are 50 cm on the right and left side of the bed. With a slight disability, it will already be difficult ... making beds, etc. also isn’t much fun

I made the bedroom a little wider in the planning and made the bathroom about 20 cm smaller for that.

And also the kitchenette with 300 cm ..

Yes, the kitchen could possibly be swapped with the living room cabinet or made at an angle, and some things could also be stored in the storage room.

And something that hasn’t come up at all yet ... sun and light on the ground floor .. southwest, evening sun, etc. is blocked out for the living area.

Yes, we have planned the sunny side here several times, but then the garage can only be in the middle of the house or the granny flat behind the garage on the right side of the single-family house. As it is now, the sun would be on the terrace behind the garage until 2:30 p.m. When the sun goes down, it stands right in front of the garage and in the garden as well, because there are at least 10 meters next to the garage to the end of the property, and we would also have a small shadow behind the garage when the sun is 38 degrees at 4 p.m.

Apparently everything is supposed to be somewhat smaller now, but I would like to remind you of my draft. In total about 45 sqm more than your last draft.

Yes, that would also mean at least 60,000 more construction costs, and having the garage in the middle would make it difficult to have a wide garage door there because everything would then be too wide; also the living/dining area is not angled and not separated, and the main entrance door should be in the front center like in a city villa. If that doesn’t bother you, the plan would be great for you.

By the way ... building services are not limited to just a heating boiler or something like that. There are also electrical, gas connections, water connections, etc. What about the ventilation system?

The heating should be on the upper floor so that only one opening upward through the roof would be needed for the chimney, and importantly, the chimney should have a water jacket, and then it’s good if the chimney and heating are not far apart. Electrical should go into the storage room next to the garage, as well as gas and water connections. No ventilation system.

With over 200 sqm of living space, decent rooms should result.

Yes, that would be best, that’s why we are considering back and forth.

The granny flat is no longer even a subsidizable granny flat with a walk-through room ...

The one room could be used either for the granny flat or the single-family house and the door on the other side closed accordingly or, as mentioned, also as a walk-through room.

Your priorities seem to lie in symmetry from a bird’s eye view and the ancillary rooms, which causes the habitable rooms to suffer.

Such city villas are built very often, but mostly the kitchen and living room are at the back of the house and two rooms at the front; we want to have the two rooms on the left side in the house and the kitchen at the front.

Even the niche in the children’s room and the parents’ bedroom are reason enough to recognize that "something" is wrong with the design tactic.

The niche in the children’s room could be used as a shelf corner, but we have also thought about having a two-quarter-turn staircase in the middle of the hallway; then the "niche" above would be about 2.2 meters wide and would have just enough space for a child’s bed. I have already made the parents’ bedroom in the granny flat 20 cm wider.

The staircase also seems too short... one has to like a staircase that is closed off on the left and right by two walls..

As written above, it might be a two-quarter turn staircase.

In my view, hardly any are less so. Symmetry cannot replace proportion. Those who don’t "feel" that often only see it when the finished object is done.

How are all the other city villas built then? There are many plans on Google and ours is almost like that too, except that the kitchen is not at the back but in the front right anyway.

In the large kitchen/living/dining area in my version, a wall could easily be placed, for example, between living and dining, which I prefer because dining and cooking belong together. But you could also put it between cooking and dining.

A large hallway, but the family sneaks in through the side entrance, then first walks through the kitchen, etc. No, that is a makeshift solution, but not a standard.

And, I don't understand the chimney argument at all now. It has to come from the ground floor anyway.

If you really want to separate the ground floor from the upper floor, then you want to live with a well 4 sqm large bathroom including a guest toilet with a mini washbasin, a shower door that is difficult to open due to the heating position, etc.

What do you conclude the additional costs from? My planning, for example, omits unnecessary bay windows; a balcony area for drying laundry could possibly be created above the central part of the house. Costs are also generated by large and many access paths. Site plan:

The parked cars are also positioned in such a way that they separate the garden area of the granny flat and the single-family house.

Why do you need a 400 cm wide garage door? My 250 cm variant could also be expanded to 300 cm.

This view also has symmetry, just a little different... but starting from the garage door, there are entrance doors on the right and left, and then two windows each


You really should finally get an architect involved.

When the sun sets, it is exactly in front of the garage and in the garden anyway because there are at least 10 meters from next to the garage to the end of the property and we would also have a small shadow behind the garage when the sun is 38 degrees hot at 4 pm.

I would like that sentence explained in normal everyday German including punctuation.

It is only supposed to be for guests, "our" cloakroom and all related things should be in the storage room at the side entrance, standing/hanging there.

Why do you have an entrance with a foyer? Just for symmetry?
And after the family outing, do you all gather next to the garage in the utility room?

I made the bedroom a bit wider in the planning and made the bathroom a bit smaller, by about 20 cm.

Even smaller? I read that a 78-year-old is supposed to move in there...

Yes, that would also be at least 60 thousand more in construction costs and since the garage is in the middle, it would be difficult to make a wide garage door there because everything would become too wide, also the living/dining area is not L-shaped and not separated and the main entrance door should be centered in front like in a city villa. If that’s not disturbing, the plan would be super suitable.

Conditions that the property cannot meet should be discarded.

One room could be used either for a granny flat or a single-family house and the door on the other side can be closed or, as mentioned, used as a passage room.

So it is surplus!

Such city villas are often built, but usually the kitchen and living room are at the back of the house and two rooms at the front. We want the two rooms on the left side of the house and the kitchen at the front.

How are all the other city villas built? There are many plans on Google and ours is also almost like that except the kitchen is not at the back but at the front right.

Not at all how you think.
Show me a city villa that including a double garage shows symmetry.
I don’t understand how such a mental block can form so that you get so obsessed with house planning as if you want to reinvent the wheel.

First you put your symmetry first, then your garage in the middle, make sure that the living and cooking area has an L-shape, and next to it the parents get the garage counterpart (because of the symmetry).

This is how you go in circles—and every time basically the same nonsense comes out, sometimes rooms can’t be properly furnished, sometimes your needs (e.g. sauna) have no space anymore.
That’s not how you plan a house.

Room program, analysis of the plot, location and orientation of the most important rooms, the rest follows little by little.
You can have symmetry in mind and try to incorporate it, but you should also eventually ask yourself whether symmetry in a world that benefits from balance is really sensible.

If you really want to separate the ground floor from the upper floor, you would have to live with a bathroom of just over 4 sqm including a guest toilet with a mini washbasin, a shower door that is difficult to open due to the position of the heating system, etc.

It was just a thought to separate them, but only 2 apartments are allowed on the property anyway, so a granny flat and a single-family house. What do you mean by the position of the heating system and the shower door?

This view also has symmetry, just a bit different... but starting from the garage door, the entrance doors are on the right and left and then two windows each

Single-family house and granny flat with a hipped roof and flat roof on the garage?

In the large kitchen/living/dining area in my version, you could easily put a wall between living and dining, which I prefer because eating and cooking belong together. But you could also put it between cooking and dining.

Yes, that could be done, would it also be possible to integrate a built-in kitchen somewhere? 5 cabinets at 60 cm each would be 300 cm.

Yes, that could be done, would it also be possible to integrate a built-in kitchen somewhere? 5 cabinets each 60 cm, that would be 300 cm.

What do you mean?????

For the roof ... yes, e.g. a hip roof in a single-family house and the one-story area with a flat roof with a parapet roof edge ... I don't know the exact technical term.

For the roof ... yes, for example a hip roof on a single-family house and the one-story area with a flat roof with an attic parapet ... I don't know the exact technical term.

It would definitely be cheaper than creating a hip roof over the granny flat and garage, I think.

What do you think?????

Here you can see it, kitchen built into the wall