Apartment for parents: 210 m² single-family house and 80 m² apartment

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-22 18:22:31

ypg

2017-08-08 23:02:14
  • #1


You forgot, for your symmetry, to build a garage door into the living room of the granny flat.
 

kbt09

2017-08-08 23:22:26
  • #2
Where is the sauna?

And, the living-dining-kitchen area of the granny flat is really quite small, just like the 300 cm in the granny flat bedroom. There isn’t much space left beside the bed.

Instead, there is a huge hallway in the main house that offers practically no wardrobe space. The hallway of the granny flat also hardly provides any room for a wardrobe.

The path for the car directly in front of the front door could be problematic ... and unfortunately you essentially build a lot of road on your own property. If the space in front of the granny flat is used as a terrace, a car can no longer get through.
 

schustrik

2017-08-09 19:31:33
  • #3
What do you mean by the first level? In the upper floor in the children's room behind the stairs there is a gap.

I mean whether it would be sufficient to keep 5.5 meters distance from the street or if there are experiences that people sometimes make it longer.

Entrance for the upper floor through the main entrance and then "walling off" the stairs or alternatively immediately making a concrete staircase instead of a wooden one and the entrance for the apartment on the ground floor would then be through the current side entrance OR also through the main entrance and then adding another door afterwards at the end of the stair steps.

At which point do harmonious proportions jump over the sword?

Most of the cabinets are usually entered with the maximum dimension, so where a cabinet of 300 cm stands, one could also put one with 200 cm.

Oh, right

That could now also be completely omitted but since there is still some space in the bathroom upstairs, we would place it there.

Yes, the previous plan was 350 sqm and this one is 245 sqm and therefore the separate apartment has to be smaller. I initially drew the separate apartment bedroom a bit bigger too but then the separate apartment bathroom would have been smaller.

Yes, the "huge entrance hall" in the single-family house results from arranging the rooms like that, a chest of drawers could be placed next to the kitchen door and by the stairs as currently drawn. Yes, that was only a consideration.

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Since this plan is not the biggest disaster in my opinion, could you give me some ideas on how to make it better?

What I also like is that the office room on the ground floor could also be used as a room for the separate apartment as needed. This keeps the room layout a bit flexible and what is also important is that the whole thing at 246 sqm is already at the maximum limit. Added to that is the garage and the storage room behind it.

Single-family house ground floor: 102 sqm
Single-family house upper floor: 91 sqm
Separate apartment: 53 sqm (For parents, they are 70 and 78 years old)
= 246 sqm

Garage and storage room would be an additional + 45 sqm
 

kbt09

2017-08-10 06:59:48
  • #4
Well, sauna on the upper floor... no garden access? The bathroom doesn’t look like there is space for a sauna, except maybe a mini sitting sauna. Plaster and tiles, etc., also have a certain material thickness, by the way.

A dresser as a wardrobe space for 5 people and guests? You’re not serious – are you?

What do the parents say about the rather small apartment and especially the bedroom? There are 50 cm to the right and left of the bed. With a slight disability, that’s already difficult... making the bed, etc., is also no fun there. And also the kitchen unit with 300 cm... that’s the standard starter unit from the kitchen brochure. Take a look at it, barely any workspace, hardly any base cabinet storage since dishwasher, oven, fridge, and sink cabinet with trash need to be accommodated.

And what hasn’t come into play at all yet... sun and light on the ground floor... southwest, evening sun, etc., are cut off from the living area.
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Apparently everything is supposed to be a bit smaller now, but I would like to remind you of my design. Overall about 45 sqm more than your last design.
85 granny flat
114 ground floor
107 upper floor
30 for garage
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Granny flat - private and separate enough to rent out to strangers.
The upper floor could also be separated, then one could continue living on the ground floor with sauna, etc... with a proper sauna.
A nice apartment could also be realized on the upper floor... when you come up the stairs there, you have a nice wardrobe space in the utility room area.
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By the way... the building services are not limited to just a boiler or something. There’s also electrical, gas connections, water connections, etc. What about the ventilation system?
 

ypg

2017-08-10 08:16:25
  • #5
You are going around in circles. With over 200 sqm of living space, reasonable rooms should result. The [Einliegerwohnung] with a walk-through room is no longer even a subsidizable [Einliegerwohnung]... Your priorities seem to lie in symmetry from a bird's-eye view and the ancillary rooms, which causes the habitable rooms to suffer. Just the niche in the children's room and the parents' bedroom are reason enough to recognize that "something" is wrong with the design strategy. The staircase also seems too short... you have to like a staircase that is closed off on both sides by two walls...
 

11ant

2017-08-10 13:41:45
  • #6
From my point of view, at hardly fewer than all. Symmetry cannot replace proportion. Those who do not "feel" it often only see it in the finished object.
 

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