Apartment for parents: 210 m² single-family house and 80 m² apartment

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-22 18:22:31

ypg

2017-12-13 23:48:36
  • #1
I honestly see nothing good, well thought out, or positively noteworthy in your draft. You quoted me, but unfortunately omitted the justified subordinate clause... could it be that you fundamentally cannot grasp the focus of a statement? I mean, you bumble through your ideas, ask us for our opinion, but the focus of each statement seems to drift into nothingness with you. You ignore the statements. Instead, you discard a terrace in the granny flat, not only that: you take away any freedom of movement from the old gentlemen's seat, you forgo the desired sauna, a nice and functional entrance, and a nice staircase despite the horrendous square meters—someone should really open your eyes here. The twists and turns already indicate that the crux of the problem lies in the planning. It hasn't gotten better even after months, but a lousy draft is just tuned... not improved. Ugh, and always these explanations for a failed detail like "we also have that now, but are managing well with it"... compromises are sugarcoated or/and planning mistakes are repeated.
 

11ant

2017-12-14 00:05:00
  • #2
Am I correct in assuming that you encountered these "worse floor plans" in an unfurnished state? - I have the impression that you have a spatial perception weakness and without stuffing them full of furniture (or measuring them) you have no reference to the dimensions of the rooms.
 

schustrik

2017-12-14 14:37:27
  • #3

Why not? Are children supposed to come into the main entrance from the garden or yard and mess everything up if there’s dirt on their shoes? Are shoes and jackets for all seasons supposed to hang at the front main entrance for all people? If you assume just 3 pairs of shoes per person, that’s 18 pairs standing around at the front. That’s what the side entrance is for and behind that we have our cloakroom. Children ride their bikes and put them in a shed in the garden and then enter the house through the back entrance, why should they run to the main front entrance?

Here I have marked the space for a possible terrace.



Yes, in the shell there is no furniture. Yes, I have often thought about the furniture that would be there. But if you have to walk through 3 adjoining rooms from the garage to get to the kitchen or there are about 10 corners in the bedrooms upstairs, then that’s also too much for me. Someone once wrote here that then there are “edge surcharges”^^

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I have drawn the hallway a little differently in the ground floor and moved the heating system, which can now be accessed from outside through a door. Now the heating is located in the center of the building complex. How does it look with the gas connection that comes from the street, does it have to be in the garage? The same place where the water connection is?



I have made the corridor in the granny flat wider and rearranged the bathroom.
 

kbt09

2017-12-14 15:57:28
  • #4
You can't be serious that you're building a granny flat where you first have to go through the kitchen, then the storage room, and then from there to the terrace.

2x90 cm mattresses will require a bed frame width of about 190 cm.

Heating and utility room next to the bedroom only accessible from the outside? Well, there's also electrical equipment and such there.

All I can say is, finally let an architect handle it.
 

ruppsn

2017-12-14 16:23:18
  • #5
Is there actually a specific reason why you are NOT going to the architect?

So it can’t be that you think you could do it alone or even better – purely based on the previous feedback.

What is actually your goal?
If it is that you want a well-functioning floor plan for your requirements, I don’t understand why you don’t take that option.

If it is supposed to be tinkering around and cobbling something together yourself through feedback from the forum, I’m afraid that won’t work, because keep in mind that patience here in the forum is limited and even a fundamentally messed-up design won’t turn into an award-winning masterpiece through one or two tips. Garbage in, garbage out. Sounds dumb, but it’s true.

Purely out of protection for yourself, ask one or more professionals... I’m convinced that is more effective.
 

KingSong

2017-12-14 19:19:23
  • #6
We are also building 210m² with a 65m² granny flat for my mother.....but such a (sorry for the statement) terrible plan I haven't seen here for a long time. I also drew our plan myself, and I too received opinions and a few slaps in the face. In the end, however, I took every single comment to heart, and it finally became a well-rounded and successful plan, which was then highly praised and appreciated by the architect who finalized it. We are now looking forward to a large home for 5 people (maybe 6 someday) with a wonderfully airy layout and plenty of space to live and feel comfortable for everyone.

By the way, we get more living space out of the 65m² granny flat than you do from your 80m²......
 

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