Apartment for parents: 210 m² single-family house and 80 m² apartment

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-22 18:22:31

ypg

2017-12-11 20:47:37
  • #1
[August:

December:


I do see differences, possibly some improvements (I also want to be nice once in a while), but also things that could be done better if one would break free from the constraints.
For example: the kitchen island should rather be docked at the bottom of the plan so that the passage to the dining area is more direct.
Orientation... yeah yeah... but for me that would be a no-go,
you look at the wardrobe from the sofa, the stairs are still a cheap version, the kitchen table at the island also looks unplanned, the granny flat is anything but accessible and doesn’t even have garden access.
 

11ant

2017-12-11 23:17:01
  • #2
The labyrinthine folding of the walls reminds me of cross-sectional drawings of window profiles or mitochondria. The house is guaranteed to be perfectly windproof, as it is braced by the angled walls. The rooms are densely packed as if designed by a Tetris grandmaster. You just can’t take a deep breath between these walls.

But the differences are quite small, the difference between stagnation and going in circles is barely noticeable to the naked eye.

The highest priority for the granny flat, having to be as wide as the garage wing due to the symmetry dogma, is, in my view, too high a mortgage. It "doesn’t feel right" if the grandparents of your own children are supposed to live there.

Not in terms of square meters, but in terms of "space" feeling, this granny flat is basically a walled-in camper van. Overall, this house is a display case into which the furniture along with its users are sorted.

I second that.
 

haydee

2017-12-12 08:17:15
  • #3
Take some of the corners and edges out of the floor plan. It already starts in the garage. With 3 or 4 children, you drive a bus. The side mirrors are - side mirrors wider than 2 meters and 5 meters length is tight. The doors on the left and right should open. Bikes, Bobby cars etc. also need space.

The granny flat is not wheelchair accessible. There are enough floor plans as examples. It’s not about having the grandparents as extreme care cases at home, but it is very helpful and relieving in cases of limited mobility or care services.

Everything feels cramped. 6 people want to put on their shoes and jackets at the same time.

Find an architect.

Kbt’s floor plan is better.
 

schustrik

2017-12-13 19:41:57
  • #4
It was first where the heating is now. We considered putting it in a garden shed or in the upstairs laundry room in a corner.

Yes. There isn’t much space for it.


The wardrobe for us is in the storage room by the garage, in the entrance area there should only be space for guests' belongings.

There is a door to the outside in the storage room.


Yes, the heating still hasn’t found a place. We also thought of putting it upstairs in the laundry room or making the playroom smaller downstairs and making a room with an outside door (under the loggia so to speak).

That’s how we have it so far because that’s where our wardrobe is, the main entrance is only meant for "guests" and not for "us". We enter 80% of the time through the side entrance so the main entrance stays tidier.

Yes, I have already redrawn it with some changes. However, what I haven’t mentioned here yet: there are very tall trees on the south side above the street that let the sun into the garden when it is very high, otherwise the garden is shaded.

I took the measurements from a kitchen that is currently in one of our rental apartments, there the corner has a stove at 45 degrees and next to it a 60 cm worktop. That is all 160 cm wide. So 181 cm would fit.


Ok, just consider it now as a room that belongs to the granny flat or, as already mentioned here, as a room that can be used by both.


But that is where the fitted kitchen is?!?

Yes, I just drew the corner in the hallway before posting, before it was straight.


This is about the roof shape, it is a hipped roof on the house, also on the granny flat and the garage.

Yes, that is something one can still consider or plan better.



The storage room is 22 sqm, should be enough

I have already looked at about 50 shell constructions, I have seen much worse floor plans where I myself shook my head even though I apparently have little knowledge according to you.

Of course, this plan is not 100% good but some things we absolutely want are taken into account. Although fewer than at the very beginning of the planning. If we were to give up 1-2 wishes, we could also plan completely differently.

I also like the aforementioned plan very much but there are some points that we don’t like:
- Long narrow corridor to the living room
- You have to be able to go directly from the kitchen to the storage room
- No side entrance at the front
- Kitchen-dining-living room should be around the corner
- Bathroom around the corner upstairs we don’t like
 

haydee

2017-12-13 20:48:53
  • #5
Didn't know that the storage room is also supposed to be a cloakroom. It is usually located near the front door. This also means that the area between the kitchenette and the work island is still a passageway.

Why don't you take your room layout and your property to an architect?

Just because you don't like other floor plans doesn't mean yours is good. Your room layout is somehow arranged over a large area. I wouldn't want to live like that with 6 people.
 

11ant

2017-12-13 23:20:38
  • #6
For a staircase, the space mustn't be too tight – when changing floors, you certainly don't want to feel like a pneumatic tube (?)

Next time, please warn me before you cause me such a laughing fit with shortness of breath. This is already the best joke in the comedy barn: the main entrance is deliberately placed right in the very middle the world has ever seen – and then normally you’re supposed to enter through the servants' entrance *ROTFL*
 

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