Layout Planning: Bathroom Shower

One more point about the dressing room, the lower wall panel with the 3.01 m measurement – presumably in the shell construction. If the usual wardrobe of 3 m is supposed to stand there later, with plaster and skirting board a few centimeters will be missing. Therefore, better to plan with at least 3.10 m in the shell construction. The plan above for the bathroom seems to have the wall even shorter.

Oh great! I would never have thought of that. Thank you very much for the valuable tip. We will keep that in mind.

Here’s another suggestion. Bathroom a bit bigger, move the door, shift the dressing room a bit towards the bedroom. Door in the dressing room further forward, then you also get 3 m of closet space on the second side. The window above the bed could have a high sill height like the kitchen, then the exterior view would also be correct. The bed would definitely be better placed this way, because it then has more space on the left and right. Windows in the bathroom would have to be moved. Space for a large shower and a large [ATTACH alt="Haus EG.jpg"]41052[/ATTACH]tub.

wow, I really like that already. Very good idea. We’ll take another close look at it, maybe we’ll come up with something else based on this. Thanks!

Did someone shout that from the mountain or chisel it into a stone tablet 2,000 years ago?

Basically, yes. In front of the cave was the fire, at the entrance the living and living area, in the back the retreat. In front people cooked and lived, in the back they slept. Visitors were received in the front, strangers had no business in the back.
This has proven itself and is handled exactly the same way nowadays: behind the entrance area comes the all-purpose room, in the back, that is one floor higher, the sleeping areas.
Pass-through rooms should always be the livelier ones; the last room is the one where you seek peace.

For me it would be highly uncomfortable if guests had to go through or past the kitchen to get to the living room or dining room.

You are free to build however you like.
However, I have described the kitchen here, not the living room. You are free to plan a door to the living room, but I find your way to the kitchen annoying for the reasons mentioned. And you don’t visit the kitchen just once a day, but several times. And it concerns every household member.

We usually only sit in the living room when we watch TV or play with the kids.

Exactly. That’s precisely why the living room doesn’t need an exit to the terrace, while in summer or when using the garden and terrace, you constantly move back and forth between kitchen and terrace or garden. And mostly with food, drinks, etc.

I often spend several hours in the kitchen preparing something. Here I like to keep an overview of what’s going on (postman arriving, guests coming, children playing, weather development in summer --> thunderstorm).

I can understand that you like having the kitchen window facing the street.
If you have the ideal plot for that and everything else fits, great. But if you have to weigh whether to keep an eye for a few seconds on whether the postman stops or drives past, or rather on the path to the garden from the room where you spend several hours a day, the choice will surely not be the postman.

As I said: I also think a door to the living room is a good choice, but I wouldn’t block the direct access to the kitchen, because I think more of the household members than of the guests. There are plenty of situations where you don’t want to pass through the chill area when others are sitting there. This applies both to the child in the evening who wants to get something from the kitchen without passing by visitors, as well as the man who wants to get his beer from the kitchen without disturbing his wife with her friend in the living room.

It goes uphill there and there are very many trees.

I never said you should open your house towards the plan’s upper direction. Absolutely not.

: Well great, thank you very much for your arguments and explanations regarding this. I always appreciate different viewpoints. Of course, there are housing concepts that have proven themselves. However, in the course of open floor plans, open kitchens, and the seamless transition between living and dining areas, I am of the opinion—also based on my own experience with our current apartment—that this has changed somewhat. The liveliest area for us currently is the living and dining area. Even now, to get to the kitchen, you have to pass by the living and dining room. I can follow the argumentation you laid out. But: open floor plan = no door between kitchen and living/dining room. So in our case—if I were to swap the kitchen and living room—everyone would also have to pass by the kitchen. That would be out of the question for me. The terrace wraps around the corner and will be relatively large. Access is possible via sliding doors from both the living room and dining room. This way, you don’t necessarily have to go through the living room to get from outside to the kitchen. A living room without large doors to the terrace would be unthinkable for us. I really appreciate being able to lie on the couch and still be “half” outside through the open doors to the terrace. Furthermore, I don’t want a living area with windows facing the sunny south side. We usually spend time in the living area watching TV. I am glad in the summer to have the living room windows facing the “cool” forest rather than toward the sun. I want the dining area and kitchen to be bright. As you say, there has to be a perfect plot for certain things. The house will be located somewhat higher than the front houses standing in the first row. On the other side of the street below, however, there is a fairly tall multi-story building. That is why I didn’t want a living room on this (lower southern) side of the plan. It would be a foregone conclusion that the blinds would always be closed there. I currently enjoy being able to watch the street a little bit while working in the kitchen. Maybe it’s just a habit since that’s how it is right now. But somehow you feel less observed and can indulge your curiosity a little. Hard to put into words, maybe someone understands what I mean
Long story short: I asked you myself to explain the initially made claim. You have done so, and I thank you very much for that. I don’t share these views or only partially, and for this reason I definitely wouldn’t change anything on the right half of the ground floor. We will have the changes proposed by Würfel* put on paper by the architect. I’ll get back here again. If anyone has another bright idea in the meantime, please definitely speak up here. Regards

Just as you say, there must also be the perfect plot for certain things.

No, I don't. I set priorities because no plot is perfect for everything, and I can't either.

I do not share these views b

You think in terms of "apartment," not "house."
I don't know anyone who lies down on the couch in daylight during summer who is in a house with a garden. Only people in apartments without land do that. Life in a house with a garden around it looks a bit different.

Ok, then I wish you lots of fun with [Regenschirm] in the garden
Or in the garden at 35 degrees? Well then rather with air conditioning in the living room on the shady side. But I think you will see it differently again here.
I have lived 3/4 of my life in the parental home and I know quite well that I do not think in terms of "apartment".
But let's better leave it at that.
Have a nice day