Kitchen appliances - stove, oven, microwave, and whatever else is needed!

  • Erstellt am 2018-09-28 11:06:28

haydee

2018-09-28 22:07:50
  • #1
Mh American Cheesecake without crumbs hm yes delicious. Or is it with quark like the classic German one?
 

chand1986

2018-09-28 22:09:57
  • #2
I am a bit surprised by the aggressive rejection of something that is no more and no less than a work tool.

Sure, you can do everything, but also everything that the TM can do in another way. Cheaper anyway.

For the kitchen you really need some storage space, a cutting board, a good knife, a pan, a pot, a heat source. That's it.

But when it comes to cooking several things in parallel, a device that can simultaneously stir, puree, and heat precisely is a second person in the kitchen.

Whether you need it or not depends on the usage behavior. Replacing a €1200 device with four at €200 each, despite the price advantage, seems totally crazy to me. I want to work efficiently, above all else.

Sure, it was hyped through marketing. That doesn't automatically make it useless, at most the price is unnecessarily high. I would buy the non-hyped device for less money that is just as good. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist. At least not for my use case.

And I meant that seriously: I wanted to prevent getting it, was overruled, and got caught by pure usage. It's hard to speak of a marketing victim in that case.

(By the way, as a chemist I am the prime user for devices that simultaneously stir, deliver a certain temperature, and can do a bit more. That is proven laboratory technology in housewife format).
 

ypg

2018-09-28 22:21:59
  • #3


Oh... yes... the steam insert... BUT THAT'S NOT BAKING..
but this is not meant to be a criticism of steaming



The thing doesn’t cook... it can do a few work steps. But mostly not even simultaneously. The steps in recipes are coordinated, but unfortunately each with a compromise. Have you ever seen meat that it chops? It’s totally undignified. With the grain it gets tough, that can’t be helped, but in the end you’ll be eating unidentifiable pieces of meat.
For pureeing, a €10 device from Lidl is enough, for mixing too.
The only thing it probably does well is precise heating... but spending 1300+ on that is disproportionate
 

chand1986

2018-09-28 22:42:10
  • #4
Who the hell makes ground meat in the TM??

I admit: You have to know what you're doing to make use of the scope. However, I do make liver sausage in it. Never ground meat or the like.

The device doesn't provide skills; you need those beforehand. If you forget how to chop onions because of the TM, you never knew how to do it in the first place, it's that simple.

And yes: Not at the same time. Still, it's only ONE device with which I save at least a mixer, bain-marie, coffee machine, steamer, dough kneading machine, 50% of an ice cream maker, and often simply some uses of pots and pans. Is that worth 1200€? Easily for me. I don't have the rest, don't have to store it, don't have to maintain it, can't break it.
How was it with Nordlys? Wut nich dei is, geit nich gfei? (from memory)
 

Bookstar

2018-09-28 23:08:23
  • #5
I know this from acquaintances, they always complain about the high price... but then hold an iPhone for the same amount that can't do anything and every run-of-the-mill smartphone nowadays is better. But okay.

With the TM, I make super tender roulades, sauce, and potatoes at the same time. Nothing burns, and I can just do something else for two hours. Also asparagus with hollandaise. Or fish with vegetables. Or yeast dough with temperature control, it becomes very fluffy. But also rice pudding without burning, soups in one go.

Also pork roast or desserts like steamed dumplings turn out perfect.

We grind our flour with it, nuts, etc., prepare dough for bread.

If you calculate which kitchen appliances it replaces in total and the quality of the machine, then I find the price fair.

It also works well without it, but for a kitchen appliance, it is top, and I don't know a single dissatisfied owner.
 

ypg

2018-09-28 23:30:29
  • #6
I don't want to badmouth the device to anyone, but these were the arguments I meant earlier
I will also praise the thing again at the end


No, no ground meat (it could probably do that better) - pork tenderloin pot, a recipe from TM... a friend prepared it... and I was horrified at what the device does to the meat.



Yes, but that is the problem of the current "young" women or even men... who want to and can follow the hype of status...



Well, you can't really save everything, because depending on your choice, you let the TM do this or that, but for other things you need the other small appliances again in parallel.
Otherwise, it is not a time saver but somehow just stands there to get the device ready again for other dishes.



With the steamer... which is just a side show with the TM.
But respect if you manage well. I have heard a lot of negative examples for the steamer, but have also experienced it myself.



I would like to have such a device just for hollandaise, but only for that it is too expensive. But there is a small device for around 60€+, a kind of mini pressure cooker from WMF, that would probably do as well.



For those whose rice pudding burns, indeed an alternative.
I wouldn't know where there is otherwise a single work process for soups. You still have to chop for a TM too.



However, if you want to work in parallel, you need the other devices too. If I make hollandaise, the TM is occupied... until serving.
 

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