Kitchen appliances - stove, oven, microwave, and whatever else is needed!

I completely agree with you. I find an iPhone (or a similar type of smartphone) fundamentally too expensive. But I still have one. A mobile phone is now a constant companion in life, it is used several times a day. At least by me. That’s why it has to work. I also fully understand if someone doesn’t need it (often) and therefore only has a simple and thus inexpensive phone. Then there are no discussions between smartphone users and those who don’t have one… strangely enough. For me, cooking still has something to do with feeling. Yes, even if a good knife cuts something – I have the tool in my hand and feel how the food is being chopped. However, I also use a food processor for my hummus; avocado, on the other hand, is mashed with a fork. Yes, this pacing of work steps is foreign to me privately, I gladly admit that to the trained chefs in the hospitality industry. Regarding the price ratio: I think I’m being stubborn about that, I honestly admit: I could afford quite a bit that I don’t have. But if I don’t see the benefit compared to the price, then I look for an alternative or accept that I don’t have something a few times a year. Ultimately, the TM is still a device that can do a lot, but not everything 100% well. And what also comes into play: I personally would rather rely on ambiance, authenticity, and simplification for a good meal than on technology: so I would rather buy tahini and start the meal by chopping it myself. But “good food” means something different to one person than to another.

There are then no discussions between smartphone users and those who don't have one... strangely enough.

Not anymore. I remember well times when these discussions were conducted in a very similar manner. Or, a few years earlier, whether to have a mobile phone or not. Perhaps because it is now almost taken for granted (at least in my generation) that everyone has a smartphone. The remaining haters have probably given up – and on the other hand, it is such an everyday object that nobody tries to convert others. After all, you don't tell people what a great invention a car is – at most, what great new features your own new car has (how I annoyed people with self-dimming rearview mirrors ) or, if needed, why one brand is better than another.

There is nothing to add from my point of view. Full agreement

That's just the anti-missionizing blah blah of the opponents. "I'm not a marketing victim like the others. Dude!" Not any better than the blah blah of the followers, by the way.

Is there anyone who can still evaluate these things sensibly without TM? It can't be that hard...

What is there to evaluate? The thing replaces a pot and a magic wand. You have a stove anyway. And "kneading" yeast dough with a knife is nothing less than blasphemy in everyday life. Regarding the coffee story, I'd better refrain, that won't end well...

Regarding the coffee story, I better refrain, that doesn't end well...

You shouldn't argue with a chemist of all people why that makes sense.

By the way, what you get is a brewed coffee that you can't tell apart from a hand filter coffee, as long as you have set it just as meticulously here. You can just make a lot more at once.

And "kneading" a yeast dough with a knife is nothing less than blasphemy in everyday life.

Well. And yet both yeast and sourdough breads turn out just the way they should. They apparently don't care one bit whether they were blasphemously kneaded...

That thing replaces a pot and an immersion blender.

Uh... no! But that has been written often enough.

When kneading by hand, we are once again in the category of producing something makes you happy. It can be compared to chopping wood.