How to change the floor plan?

  • Erstellt am 2017-06-21 11:14:40

arnonyme

2017-12-29 08:44:48
  • #1


Yep, that’s exactly how it goes here too. Only that you also have to pay the external consultants. The joke is that you can’t/can’t make the planning without an architect. You first have to throw 10-20k out the window, only to realize you can’t afford it.
Slowly I wonder whether all this is even legal. Somehow hardly imaginable.
But what could one sue for anyway, after all, you’re voluntarily going along with all this nonsense...
 

11ant

2017-12-29 14:49:17
  • #2

A magnitude that is regularly doubted in this forum by reputable sources – that is, by people who have recently handled their own concrete projects.
I personally find it scandalous how architects can whisper dreamed-up figures into their clients' ears without any personal liability.
 

kaho674

2017-12-29 16:14:31
  • #3
Yes, they should be forced to deliver at that price.
 

11ant

2017-12-29 16:38:21
  • #4
Ten percent overrun as with the craftsman's own cost estimate, the rest covered by the architect's insurance, in case of fees according to HOAI - or the builder's own risk with freely agreed fees. And/or a second opinion from a professional colleague in comparison with a verification structural analysis. Just as a suggestion for the program content of a builders' party
 

tomtom79

2017-12-29 16:49:41
  • #5
Extreme example Hamburg

Cost explosion at the Elbphilharmonie! Who is happy? The architect and the planning office, I believe from the 20 million that were estimated, it became 70 million.

Or in our city! Stadium new construction, 1.7 million planned and approved in the floor plan, currently 3.2 million, it was justified with the higher fire protection requirements and the disability-compliant expansion including elevator which is mandatory for new buildings.

Something has to happen, otherwise all construction sites will soon come to a standstill.
 

11ant

2017-12-29 17:13:11
  • #6
That’s what makes it especially joyful, that the fee also explodes along with the costs. But your example "lags" in that regard, as 20 and 70 million are almost the same: the smaller number is just from the top of the basement ceiling ready to wallpaper with two sockets per room, notary costs, construction power, outdoor facilities, etc. forgotten *LOL*
 

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