Plan living area floor plan

I find it strange to go from the bedroom to the bathroom through the kitchen. Is the daylight bathroom mandatory?

Yes, it bothers me too, do you have other suggestions for a solution? Yes, there should be a window in the bathroom.

I wouldn’t like the wall around the property either.

On the street side, there will definitely be a 2m high privacy screen. There is no sidewalk there or anything, that runs on the other side of the street.

Don’t you have any pictures? Especially with monument protection, the exterior view and property design also matter.

Only from the realtor and the corner of the house isn’t really shown there either. The exterior appearance is as shown in the 3D view regarding the door and window layout. Outside there are currently only the large chestnut trees and to the north there are concrete slabs and the manure slab, nothing green and no wall yet. The wall on that side probably won’t be very high, only about 1-1.2m for the dog. Possibly no wall and just a fence. I’ll be happy to provide pictures as soon as the purchase contract is signed.

The large entrance door to the barn should become the representative entrance.

Historically, the barn is not the entrance, but only the passage for the hay wagons. The representative entrance is not through the barn, but in our living area. That was the time when many farmers earned a lot of money thanks to technological advances in agriculture and accordingly imitated the manor houses of the old nobility. Accordingly, the "hallway" there is designed very lavishly. But hardly anyone will go in there (this was somehow the case with all the older farms we have looked at so far - no one ever went through the front door), because people park behind or on the side anyway and the kitchen with groceries is easier to reach from the back. However, the barn can also be designed from the street side as an access to the residential unit, but not as heated living space. The large gate will be renewed, with a door in the gate for easy access, but we won’t heat the barn. The course of the wall to the street is not fixed. The distance from the house wall to the planned wall is 8.5m, and there is almost 2m of path width to the street in front. The "path" is only in front of the property, not continuous. Attached is an aerial photo

Unfortunately, integrating the Tenne into the apartment is not possible. The large gate facing the street must be preserved as it is and cannot be replaced by, for example, a glass front. Installing it in front is also not possible because it opens inward.

Too bad. That is exactly what I would have suggested because of the windows facing the courtyard. Ok, the Tenne is basically a covered courtyard and access area, communal hallway, and cloakroom. Then the area you have already marked remains. I will take a look over the weekend to see if I can present a different proposal.

Yes, but it also has to be available for family/guests, income from it is not considered in the financing.

Yes, but if it is rented out, it cannot accommodate private visitors. We had similar discussions last year about the artificial granny flat: it was supposed to serve as an office and guest room, but students were supposed to rent it… you can’t just kick your tenants out on the street ;)

Then the area you have already marked actually remains. I will take a look over the weekend to see if I can present another proposal.

That was also our thought during the first inspection, that it would be a great big window, but for various reasons that's not possible.
Thanks, I'm already looking forward to it.

… you can't just kick your tenants out the door

Yes, but we simply can't rent them out for planned visits then. For birthdays, etc.

That was also our thought during the first visit, that it would be a great big window, but for various reasons it’s not possible. Thanks, I’m already looking forward to it.

What about the water pipes? Kitchens and bathrooms are planned on the top side for the exterior. Will new pipes be installed there? I’m asking for a friend... for the most sensible bathroom and kitchen layout for the apartment. Ceiling area, so you want to close the roof? That’s interesting for the daylight illumination inside the house.

How about the water pipes? On the top of the plan, kitchen and bathroom are planned on the outside. Will there be new pipes? I'm asking for a friend... for the most sensible bathroom and kitchen location for the apartment. Ceiling area, so you want to close the roof? That’s interesting for the daylight lighting in the house.

The in-house waterworks are on the top right of the plan, on the other side of the threshing floor in the basement. Since only cold water and heating shall take place in the new living area, you can plan freely there. Skylights are, I think, only possible with a lot of effort. The ceiling is already closed, above it are 5 meters high hayloft and then the roof.

I have to admit that I also have problems with the area you mentally reserved for the apartment and the windows you set. There is hardly any space for furniture and somehow everything I try feels off.

(negative) example: [ATTACH alt="Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-02 um 19.05.53.png" type="full"]76670[/ATTACH]

However, I must also admit that somehow I considered the wall in the west through the milk chamber as fixed. Probably because I like it when an old part is still visible. I could try it again with this variant if I tear it down ;)

But I also saw the possibility to use the windows of the other area and plan this kitchen as an interior one.
What came out is what I consider successful. Above all, it must be mentioned that plenty of space for furniture was generated. If the one support in the hallway should be annoying, it can be docked to a wall:

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What do you think ?