french_fry
2021-10-16 22:18:12
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I’m bringing the thread back up again. Out of ignorance, we didn’t get good advice when building our house and are currently constructing an Energy Saving Ordinance house with gas + solar thermal :( The house will have a controlled residential ventilation system with heat recovery and a small fireplace. Since construction is already underway, we no longer have the opportunity for funding. The step to KFW 55 was actually not far away, but we didn’t know that at the time. Unfortunately, we really slept on that.
For several weeks now, the topic of gas has really been giving us a headache. So thanks for the thread! Even though I still couldn't make a decision after reading it.
We would prefer to go for a geothermal heat pump (our neighbor has had one for 14 years and raves about it). We have gotten quotes, and without funding, we unfortunately cannot afford the geothermal heat pump. We have been calculating back and forth for days, but the geothermal heat pump would cost us 30,000 euros more (the saved costs for the gas condensing boiler and solar thermal are already taken into account). So, a (in my opinion) really big chunk. An air-water heat pump would cost us 12,000 euros more. That is also a lot, but we could somehow manage it over the next few years. What arguments have we already gathered (also thanks to this thread)?
Gas + mature technology + quiet + we don’t need expertise + heats reliably at all outdoor temperatures +- you could book an eco gas tariff that invests in CO2 offset measures - fossil - price fluctuations - only in combination with solar thermal
Air-water heat pump + CO2 neutral + combinable with own photovoltaics + no solar thermal - might disturb our neighbor (his bedroom would be 8m from the location of the air-water heat pump) - you have to understand it/learn a lot - apparently short lifespan (we read 10 - 20 years online) - investment without funding probably won’t pay off for us
I have already tried to find out how future-proof gas is and whether there will eventually be alternatives to gas that can be fed into the existing networks. Currently, every second household in Germany heats with gas. But the results so far have been rather sobering.
For climate protection reasons, we would take the air-water heat pump as a financial compromise. But we are afraid it will only cause us problems (with the neighbors, with our technical ignorance, and with our wallet). Maybe someone here has a good tip or food for thought for us that will help with the decision :)
For several weeks now, the topic of gas has really been giving us a headache. So thanks for the thread! Even though I still couldn't make a decision after reading it.
We would prefer to go for a geothermal heat pump (our neighbor has had one for 14 years and raves about it). We have gotten quotes, and without funding, we unfortunately cannot afford the geothermal heat pump. We have been calculating back and forth for days, but the geothermal heat pump would cost us 30,000 euros more (the saved costs for the gas condensing boiler and solar thermal are already taken into account). So, a (in my opinion) really big chunk. An air-water heat pump would cost us 12,000 euros more. That is also a lot, but we could somehow manage it over the next few years. What arguments have we already gathered (also thanks to this thread)?
Gas + mature technology + quiet + we don’t need expertise + heats reliably at all outdoor temperatures +- you could book an eco gas tariff that invests in CO2 offset measures - fossil - price fluctuations - only in combination with solar thermal
Air-water heat pump + CO2 neutral + combinable with own photovoltaics + no solar thermal - might disturb our neighbor (his bedroom would be 8m from the location of the air-water heat pump) - you have to understand it/learn a lot - apparently short lifespan (we read 10 - 20 years online) - investment without funding probably won’t pay off for us
I have already tried to find out how future-proof gas is and whether there will eventually be alternatives to gas that can be fed into the existing networks. Currently, every second household in Germany heats with gas. But the results so far have been rather sobering.
For climate protection reasons, we would take the air-water heat pump as a financial compromise. But we are afraid it will only cause us problems (with the neighbors, with our technical ignorance, and with our wallet). Maybe someone here has a good tip or food for thought for us that will help with the decision :)