Newly built single-family house - gas or air heat pump + photovoltaics + storage?

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-25 14:18:30

RotorMotor

2021-09-04 18:11:15
  • #1
Because of that or your (green) conscience?
 

Deliverer

2021-09-05 10:39:44
  • #2
There is social behavior and the opposite of it. And those who want to live in a pleasant society should adhere to the consensus.
 

Gerddieter

2021-09-05 12:26:15
  • #3

Aha, that is an interesting statement!

So there is only right or wrong and nothing in between...
And what the (supposedly) right consensus is, is decided by individual "forum tigers" and then must apply to everyone...

Sorry for going off topic, but I didn't want to leave this nonsense uncommented.
GD
 

Deliverer

2021-09-05 12:28:22
  • #4
No. That is decided by nearly 100% of all climate scientists. And in the broader sense, you also don’t want to live next to someone who "only deals a little" drugs, or is "just a pimp to one prostitute." No, you also want neighbors who adhere to the consensus. Therefore, I fully stand behind my interesting statement. Because it is good. ;-)
 

pagoni2020

2021-09-05 12:52:55
  • #5
Nevertheless, your position remains black and white if you declare gas per se to be quasi asocial.

On the other hand, are senseless electricity consumptions through technology perceived as the current standard included in this consensus?
From permanently heated, oversized living spaces out of pure "luxury", warm feet in the bathroom, warm towels, camera here, automation there, driving children to school, refusing trains/public buses out of convenience, everything imaginable electrified and heated, ........ one could list such things on pages, which are certainly found with you as well.
I currently still drive a current diesel (outside the consensus) but very few kilometers, never fast and often walk anyway. I consume extremely little (except unfortunately too many calories o_O) and repeatedly experience people who define the "right" life by, for example, not having installed gas or driving an electric car. This is then gladly used as a justification for all other dirty deeds that would also be found with them. Oh no, they have declared themselves indisputably good because they have a heat pump or drive an electric car, that's enough to point fingers at others. Sorry but that's just plain!
I keep hearing/reading about "know-it-alls" who themselves live more like a maggot in bacon.
Despite wood stove, gas and diesel, one can have a significantly lower environmental impact than many self-proclaimed model environmentalists.
Therefore, I find your general accusation against a stranger, that installing gas per se is not social, completely off the mark. One should dig a little deeper there..... above all, always start with oneself!
 

pagoni2020

2021-09-05 13:10:02
  • #6

Sorry, but those are just shallow comparisons.
Do you want to live next to someone who beats his wife, humiliates his employees, sells unfair loans to his customers, the music thug brother who makes his neighbor's life hell, the pastor who... etc.... you still live there just like everyone else.
I have met pimps who actually lived this consensually with the prostitute, things I as a normal person could never have imagined, but both sides liked it that way. I also know pleasant people who "resold" cookies or weed, etc., that too is simply flat and black-and-white. On the other hand, coming home every evening with the "idle" running is considered okay by us.
There are certainly people who wouldn't like to live next to you (or me). But to defame someone because they have installed a gas heating system is completely bananas and that doesn't get any better with your comparisons.

Do me a favor and name the points of the social consensus and also who established them. I already know the mere reference to climate research, by the way, I fully agree with that (despite currently still having a diesel car and gas heating)!
What exactly is our current and universally valid consensus???
 

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